It only slipes when Im in sticky heavy mud. It is not cause by water, I getting to much traction with my outlaws. By Removing this great shim in the secondary clutch do you guys think this would help?

 

Yes, I did that when mine was worn bad, and it was much better. But, puttin a new belt in made it work best.

Setting the deflection to .87 made the belt the grabiest. Now it is grabs better than it ever has.

Except for the $90 hit, I am very happy with the tight new belt.

 

After you guys shim your driven pulley, how far is the belt sticking out of the pulley? Does Kawsaki have a spec for that or do they just go with the deflection spec? What is the spec for deflection? I looked at EPI website tech tips of the month. They say the belt should be sticking out of the driven pulley 1/16 - 1/8" and the deflection for most manufacturers was 1 1/8" to 1 1/4". These may have been specs for sleds, it did not say.

I only have one shim in my pulley so I sanded it down as someone else had done on this forum. But my belt is just now flush with the outer ring of the driven pulley. I did not measure my deflection.

Nyroc, Thanks for the great tool idea for compressing the spring. It worked great, after I fumbled around with C-clamps for an hour, and shot the spring into my neighbors yard a couple times.

 

Belt deflection for the 650 is .87inches to 1.06 inches.(7/8 of an inch to 1 inch). Shims for the 650s clutch are cheap. I bought them for 5 bucks apiece up here in Canada, so I would imagine you guys could get them way cheaper. Here are the shim sizes and part numbers.

.024in. p/n 92026-1569
.031in. p/n 92026-1617
.039in. p/n 92026-1565
.055in. p/n 92026-1570

When I checked my belt deflection, it was at 1.25 inches. I had a .055in. shim in there to begin with, so I took that one out and put in a .024in. shim. My deflection is now perfect and there is no squeeling at all. I am anxiously waiting for Gates to make us a belt, as a belt up here costs $130 (OUCH!!!)

 

Fixing to do a little work in the shim area also due to a squalking belt. I have seen alot of people talking of re-shimming, and others of no-shimming. My question is will no-shimming a squalking belt hurt anything?

 

That was kind of confusing after reading! I guess what I meant is running with no shims at all shouldnt hurt anything should it?

 

Fishead-- You won't hurt anything, as long as you stay in the recommended specs for deflection. No less than .87" deflection.

 

I just purchased a camo P650. Belt started slipping in high range just off idle at slow speed under a load. I read in manual to use low range for mud, hills, & backwoods. So, I started using low range, and after about ten more miles it was doing it again. I took to dealer & they changed shim & adjusted tension. Works great now.
Also I was told by another P650 owner not to baby it when under a load, but too juice it! I have found that this works real well. If belt is squeeling, you are not riding it the way it was intended. Of course, I was trying to baby mine also during break-in, but when in doubt, PUNCH IT

P.S.
Only 37 miles on bike.
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'02 P650 stock
'01 CR250. VFORCE delta2, jetted carb,Twin air
'99 ZRX1100. ZX11 cams, Muzzy race megaphone, K&N's, Dynojet stage 3

 

No need to worry about me babying mine, I give her hell all the time!
Just got my drive clutch puller bolt in and of course had to try it out! After I got everything apart and began re-shimming my driven clutch, I inspected the drive clutch sheaves for wear and I saw some pretty good grooving begining low on the sheave. I read a while back about cruising in low and not high when toodling around, I have now adopted this practice. I will wait a little while and let my wrench marks fade and bring into the dealer to see if they will replace the sheaves under warranty.

Is a standard wheel bearing grease groovy for the driven clutch?

 

You are supposed to use molybdenum-disulfide grease in the clutch. I used just plain ole moly grease in there. Seems to do the trick just fine.

My clutch has grooves in the bottom of the drive clutch as well. I am wondering if this is due to letting it warm up too long before riding? If you think about it, that drive pulley is turning as soon as you fire that mighty V-twin up, so it can't be doing it any good spinning on that belt without moving anything. This is me just thinking out loud guys, so if I'm wrong, feel free to comment!!!! I adjusted my belt a while back and now have no problems with squeeling at all.