Today I seen something amaZing. I'm sorry I didn't get the guys name or number.

he modified his 650 with a little frequency thingy (I'm very techincal) and it removes all the lag on low end?
any help? do you have a shopping list and how to hook it, will the new cdi take care of this?

 

I haven't heard of anything other than the CDI, and the programmable fuel injection/ignition controller from haltech (much $$$, well over $1k).

2Wolfman said the cdi would add a bit more low end power.

I have no lag at all. Getting the needle adjusted right fixed that.

 

something about a to disactivate a counterbalancer? I never thought I had a lag until I drove his... I mean it takes off before you give it, and what he did looks cheap... now that I thing about it I think it's homemade. If you were stopped going down hill (small grade to a bit steep) and you had it in 4wd it would pull up the front tires.

 

Kawi,

Our dealer was working on an electronic devise that was supposed to trick the speed sensor. He said that if he could trick the cdi into thinking the bike was always in the midrange we would have full power all the time. He never did get a chance to finish it and with the new cdi's coming out shortly he probably won't bother.

 

All the stock cdi's have a 1500 rpm lag time this means when you punch it the timeing does not advance till after 1500 rpm this stops people from wheelying the thing and probably doing injury. There is a way to fool the speed and fuel sensor that controls the timeing advance to have the cdi at full advance after idle. It is a very fast take off but after 1500 it is like the stock program so the advantage is quickly absorbed. This has been known for some time but costly for just a few seconds inertia. The new cdi when it comes out will be far more advanced and will cover the whole spectrum of the timeing curve.

 

I defently agree with alltoys, but those first 3 seconds are unbelieveable[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] he had dunflops on I can just see some better tires making that rip. Scotia who's your dealer? so the "new" CDI takes that pesky delay out to? I need one now!!! You are going to like this CDI box!! How much is this CDI?

 

alltoys: there is a way to fool the sensors? can you enlighten me on how to do this? dont have enough money for the new CDI so this will do for now

 

Kawi,

The dealer was Gates Power Equipment in Digby. He was a Kawasaki dealer for 25 years and a couple of years ago started selling Artic Cat also. Kawasaki didn't like the conflict and pulled the dealership from them last year, go figure! They still do all my service and are more than helpful whenever I need them but the work on the electronics sort of takes a back seat now. Sorry.

 

Jason - I have heard the same thing. When I know more I'll let you know. From what I'm hearing, I'll be waiting for the Square C CDI to come out. It will take care of the lag on the bottom and the top end.

 

If lag time on the bottom is a problem, adjust your clutch so it doesn't engage until after 1500 RPM's. (not recomended). Our clutch doesn't engage until 1600 RPM's, but we are hook to a 10,000 lb drag sled, so it's not going to drive out from under us.

I had heard from Scott basically the same thing a week ago, he checking on it, but maybe the guy kawi650 talked to had the orange spring in. That's wild.

One of the clutch mods I am looking at is a spring adjuster for the clutch springs. If you are going to race for example, put a little more pressure on the springs and change your engagement.

I will freely post the results and how too's in the spring when we have a chance to test. I don't want anyone getting hurt on something that I suggested. INSERT (please don't try this at home, until tested)

Again 2bearman's CDI might solve all of that anyway.