Shocks can only do so much, but there is nothing you can do to the shocks to make it handle as good as a Prairie. Like Bosox said, you can't change physics. The center of mass of a Prairie is much lower than that of grizzly and no amount of stiffening shocks will help that. As far as the front of a Prairie plowing down, I was going full speed and diving down in a hair pin turn and it didn't plow, but it turned. Progressive makes shocks that some prefer, but the stiff tires were all I needed. I suspect that those cheap dunflops that come stock have more to do with being soft and plowing than the Prairie.

The height of a grizzly impresses some people, but it's looks. When you add height, you take away handling ability. The Prairie was designed to have the lower center of gravity (the gas tank below the seat) and is much more stable and better handling than the grizzly. And like I said earlier, the power, acceleration, speed, pulling power between the two is not debatable. The grizzly has a cushier ride and ground clearance, but those are about it for the advantages of a grizzly. If how it is around here is the same as it is in any other parts of the country, the biggest advantage to grizzly owners to them is the sticker on the side of the quad that says yamaha. I'm not saying that Prairie is the best because I bought one, but I bought it because every research consistently showed it was the best. I'm not brand loyal and I switched brands because of the research I did into the Prairie. If some other brand were to come out with one that was considered by every tester to be the best, I'd buy it. The yamaha I'd love to ride on would be the raptor. I'd love to hop on one of those.

 

My best friend bought his grizz 2 weeks after I bought my prairie (03 650 camo).we were out the other day and we were riding down a creek and he fell through the ice and couldnt get out so after I pulled him out I said I would go through if he would pull me out.well he didnt have to pull me out I crawled right through it.My point is I noticed that riding with him and others it seems they really have to give her the gas(almost dangerous like) to get through stuff that I just climb through.Im not saying Im better then they are , because Ive riden their machines and noticed that you really have to motor through things that my prairie drives through.and as far as mudding and hill climbs the prairies are always the first through the holes or up the hills.thats simply my observation!

ohh yeah I didnt mention I live in Mn. where we get that white stuff.and there is nothing that this machine cant plow.put it in four low and its a different animal! in high its a sport/ in low its a utitlity work horse.

 

My scrambler 500 4x4 is the same speed as a grizzly 660. I can't beat it every time, but it can't beat me every time either. Very close as far as drag races. The 660 has great mid range power. You have to get it going 5 mph then punch it and it will do a wheelie. My scram wheelies much easier. Squeeze the thumb and it sends the front to the sky. So why am I telling you this?

My friend just got a 660 and I hate it. 21 mph in high or low with the front diff locked...come on. What good is this. No reverse override either....this must be a joke. How much mud can a guy get through with a 21 mph wheel spin. Who cares about ground clearance when my scrammys wheels spin 70mph!! You prairie owners are saying the same thing. Flat out... I don't like independent rear suspension. It is a scam. I could tell you the math, but I'd be here all day. Polaris Sportsman's have the best riding independent suspension anyway. I don't like the rest of the Sportsman, but the suspension rocks.

I want a 650 prairie now. Just because it is time to trade the scrammy. I am test riding a prairie sometime this week. I can tell all you mud running fools one more fact. I made it 97 feet across a 100 foot mud pit with my scrambler in a mud drag competition. My buddies sportsman 500ho with independent rear susp. and all that fancy stuff only went 83ft right after I went through. WHY? Because when it comes to mud, the only things that matter are wheel spin and all four tires churning.

By the way...my buddy crashed his 660 into a tree the eighth day he had it trying to keep up with me through the woods. All that midrange got away from him with his trashy suspension. I know he wishes he listened to me when I told him to get the Prairie.

 

If the prairie had aggresive looks like the grizz yamaha could just quit,because then the yamy guys would be jumping the fence .thats the only thing bad you can say about the prairie is that it looks like a grampa machine,but if its outfitted with the camo it looks pretty damn cool I think.YOU THINK I DONT!

 

dont even think that your rincon is anything likethe one that won in the baja.CAUSE IT AINT!!!!
I dont care if your grizz has slicks,blower and nitrous.its still cant take the prairie!
THAT MY BOY IS PHYSICS! more power, less weight and durability.not to mention the grizz will vibrate your a$$ to the finish line.

 

3TV

Take a look at my sig and you cant really say I am brand loyal either (KFX 400 is really a kawasuki). I do my research...ride and make my decision. It is good that you have your griz dialed in for what you like to ride...anyone with the cash flow should dial their quad in the way they like to ride it. When you say dialed in are you referencing mods? If you are then you just opened a can of whoop A** on that griz...and as a V-Force owner you should know that they have yet to scratch the surface on the untapped potential of that V-Twin...You can do far more with that V-Twin then that 660.

Speaking of mods...black spring, snorkel, Jet (#145) twin air filter and Nyrocs mod...and you have a noticable performance increase that further extends the P650 capilities over the Grizzlies for $100 bucks...not bad when you consider you can get a P650 for $600 less on average then a griz. Around here a new P650 goes for about 6200 and a Griz will go for about 6700 - 6800. NAD Guide list the used 2002's for the same price in this area...go figure.

But to the point I was making above...regardless of how you like to ride or what you do the facts are the facts...mechanical engineering will tell you that the design of the prairie is better for handling through trails and technical areas at greater speeds...I dont have to go anywhere to see it as it was well documented and instructed at my college...physics are no different down south then out west. Popular mechanics, any repretable trade magazine and almost all the industry experts have gone on record by saying the P650 changed alot of the rules and is the best performing and handling big bore utility on the market...so its not a matter of "what I say", its a matter of fact supported by what all the industry experts are saying...ride penlands or alltoys if you want dialed in...anyway, I have given you factual design implementations on why the prairie will outhandle and outperform the grizzly in practically every arena and referenced experts who's opinions are documented in all the trade magazines. Now other then the fact YOU chose a Griz over a P650 what is the reasoning and basis to your theory on why the griz is such a better handler then the prairie..what industry magazines document the Griz being a better handler/performer then the Prairie...experts??? What does the griz have that compensates for its higher center of gravity, IS, and the narrowness that causes that tippy feeling. Reflect back when you were flying down the trail on that P650 and coming up on a tight turn...instead of slowing down for it you GUNNED the throttle and threw a little body action into the turn and whoosh the tail whips around after doing a little rooster and you are facing straight down the trail starting to give it even more throttle...does the Griz do that...dont you miss it...V-Force brings it all back doesnt it ... :-)

Griz is a solid machine...glad you enjoy what you ride...with all these quads now a days getting better and better its a GREAT time to be an ATV enthusiast

 

you all are forgetting one of the most important facts of the prairie and that is the fully incosed rear end.
While you $tupid grizzly owner are probably going to go throught 2 or3 sets of brakes by the time we go through 1 set.

3TV if i could get itp c series ant the atrs, I GARONTY that i would smoke you. Come on the sand with me and i dont care what you did to your quad, ill run circles around you and while your trying to keep up youll flip over.
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3TV Would you please tell me how you got your grizzly 4 inches wider, i would like my prairie to be like 2 1/2 inches wider

 

DUDE!
I like my prairie as much as the next guy, but this NYROC thing is starting to scare people!

NYROC IF YOUR THERE LOCK YOUR DOORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

PrairieVenom, I think you are underrating the brakes. I think you'll go through 10 sets of brakes for the grizzly before you ever have to do anything to the Prairies. Also, in reference to another post, I'm unimpressed with someone who is unimpressed with physics. Understanding physics is understanding why they don't build Indy cars with a 6" lift kid and tilt the spoilers up.

 

3tv where do you live . And how can i make my prairie 4 inches wider like you did your grizz.