looking to buy a kid's quad
#32
I am currently looking for a small quad for my son, and happened to find this post. I have been lurking on this and other forums daily for a good six months now, and have gained considerable knowledge by doing so. I have read some REALLY good posts, and then again I have read some REALLY bad ones. None were bad enough, until now, to tempt me to register and reply to a post. I found "WhoDatInDaMud" 's posts so idiotic, I couldn't stand by any longer.
First off, "WhoDatInDaMud", I applaud you for voicing your opinion on the very first reply. You clearly stated your opinion, even if it was in a bashing way. Then, I get to your "small airplane" post. OMG, that was the lamest comparison I think I have ever seen. What does a 200mph airplane have to do with anything??? Are you comparing a very small governed quad to a 200mph airplane? If so, WHY? Then you continue ON and ON and ON, stating that it's the law. You should have left it alone with your first reply, because you really start showing your ignorance. I see how you are really proud to be a "MN DNR ATV Safety Instructor", and have made yourself believe that you are "MN DNR ATV Safety GOD", but you are obviously no lawyer and should not quote the law as if you were. The laws that you quoted are for PUBLIC roads and PUBLIC lands. I am not from MN, but in my state, you cannot ride on ANY public roads or most public lands, even if you are a 65yr old DNR ATV Safety God.
I stated my opinion on the subject HERE and do not wish to start the debate again. I thank you "WhoDatInDaMud" for supplying a post so ignorant that finally pressed me to register.
Jason
04 Prairie 700 stock
First off, "WhoDatInDaMud", I applaud you for voicing your opinion on the very first reply. You clearly stated your opinion, even if it was in a bashing way. Then, I get to your "small airplane" post. OMG, that was the lamest comparison I think I have ever seen. What does a 200mph airplane have to do with anything??? Are you comparing a very small governed quad to a 200mph airplane? If so, WHY? Then you continue ON and ON and ON, stating that it's the law. You should have left it alone with your first reply, because you really start showing your ignorance. I see how you are really proud to be a "MN DNR ATV Safety Instructor", and have made yourself believe that you are "MN DNR ATV Safety GOD", but you are obviously no lawyer and should not quote the law as if you were. The laws that you quoted are for PUBLIC roads and PUBLIC lands. I am not from MN, but in my state, you cannot ride on ANY public roads or most public lands, even if you are a 65yr old DNR ATV Safety God.
I stated my opinion on the subject HERE and do not wish to start the debate again. I thank you "WhoDatInDaMud" for supplying a post so ignorant that finally pressed me to register.
Jason
04 Prairie 700 stock
#33
Jason - Many many posts have been deleted from this thread. Sometimes when the light comes on we want to "take it back". Without those posts my replies may seem a little dissjointed as replies were made to questions or comments that no longer exist.
In regards to using common sense with a properly sized quad, safe - supervised operation and proper training and equipment - I agree! Great sport for kids and parents. My kids had ATV's when they were 10 years old. They had go-karts before that.
Somewhere it always seems to get lost. Our role as ATV safety instructors is to PROMOTE youthful operation through education and certification of demonstrated skill and knowledge.
Good luck with finding the right quad for your son.
In regards to using common sense with a properly sized quad, safe - supervised operation and proper training and equipment - I agree! Great sport for kids and parents. My kids had ATV's when they were 10 years old. They had go-karts before that.
Somewhere it always seems to get lost. Our role as ATV safety instructors is to PROMOTE youthful operation through education and certification of demonstrated skill and knowledge.
Good luck with finding the right quad for your son.
#36
The thing is, there are ATV's that are plenty safe for youngsters out there. These smaller quads for the youngins are safer for them then riding bikes. Some can be toned down so they don't move fast at all. Not much chance to roll over. Whereas on a bike, the little guys are way more likely to fall of and hurt themselves. I have seen it many times, especially when they don't wear a helmet.
I think this forum is filled with good people, knowledgable people, safety conscious people, etc. With the occassional wako or loser. When somebody asks a question, they will get a wealth of responses to try to wade through. I think our job as member is to give our opinions and answers based on our experiences, both personal and observed. We need to be fair and honestly try to help others make the decision they are trying to make.
The bottom line is, it's not generally the ATV's fault kids get hurt. It's the parents that don't care, or don't know enough about the dangers. They buy their kids quads that are to big for them and their abilities, or they let them ride adult size quads. You don't see many kids get hurt when they are riding quads the appropriately sized for them, or the kids who have parents that take time to teach them to ride responsibly and safely.
I have an LT80 for all my kids. I like the LT80 because physically it is a small quad, easy for younger kids to ride. Yet is has the speed for the older ones to ride. All thanks to the throttle limiter. My kids are 6, 7, and 9. My kids wear the safety gear. I turn the throttle limiter down for the younger ones to the point they can't go fast enough to hurt themselves. But they can ride and learn the proper riding techniques. Turn it up for the older one, who is physically almost to big for this quad.
I'm to tired to write any more, I don't need to write a book.
Parents just need to be parents and put their kids safety first when either buying or letting the kids ride these machines. Common sense should rule, it's just unfortunate some people don't have much of that.
I think this forum is filled with good people, knowledgable people, safety conscious people, etc. With the occassional wako or loser. When somebody asks a question, they will get a wealth of responses to try to wade through. I think our job as member is to give our opinions and answers based on our experiences, both personal and observed. We need to be fair and honestly try to help others make the decision they are trying to make.
The bottom line is, it's not generally the ATV's fault kids get hurt. It's the parents that don't care, or don't know enough about the dangers. They buy their kids quads that are to big for them and their abilities, or they let them ride adult size quads. You don't see many kids get hurt when they are riding quads the appropriately sized for them, or the kids who have parents that take time to teach them to ride responsibly and safely.
I have an LT80 for all my kids. I like the LT80 because physically it is a small quad, easy for younger kids to ride. Yet is has the speed for the older ones to ride. All thanks to the throttle limiter. My kids are 6, 7, and 9. My kids wear the safety gear. I turn the throttle limiter down for the younger ones to the point they can't go fast enough to hurt themselves. But they can ride and learn the proper riding techniques. Turn it up for the older one, who is physically almost to big for this quad.
I'm to tired to write any more, I don't need to write a book.
Parents just need to be parents and put their kids safety first when either buying or letting the kids ride these machines. Common sense should rule, it's just unfortunate some people don't have much of that.
#37
When I raise my future children,,,,,I plan to shelter them,,,,possibly even confine them until they are full grown adults.
This way they will never get hurt as children. j/k
Its all about education and respect for the machine and the sport.
A good parent will surely be able to tell when his/her child is ready for a powertoy.
This topic is so subjective.........every child is different,,,,and so is every parent.
As far as which one to get,,,,cant really help you there...havent really studied them all that much.
OK,,,,at least get one with a headlight,,,,i heard someone complaining about that somewhere.
This way they will never get hurt as children. j/k
Its all about education and respect for the machine and the sport.
A good parent will surely be able to tell when his/her child is ready for a powertoy.
This topic is so subjective.........every child is different,,,,and so is every parent.
As far as which one to get,,,,cant really help you there...havent really studied them all that much.
OK,,,,at least get one with a headlight,,,,i heard someone complaining about that somewhere.


