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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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1. Is it possible to remap the controller for the fuel injection system on the 450 wild. if yes then would there be extra tunig possibilities?
2. Approx. what is the cost of godd aftermarket A arms for the 450 Wild?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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not sure on the mapping but world class sells a-arms. if you are going to mx this quad you will need to change the a-arms. have not saw a 450 in action but the 450 and 300 have the same frame and suspension. my son was asked to race one for a local dealer and he hated the handeling, said the quad tried to straighten out in the corners so he was fighting the steering the whole time he rode it. the quad wore him out in 3 laps and he usually dont get tired. he has rode a cannondale moto and now rides a 400ex so he is not new to the sport and is one of our areas top riders. ive heard with changes they can be made to handle better on a mx track but stock they handle terrible.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 01:42 AM
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the mapping can be redone, from what i'm told the program to do it isn't cheap, i know my dealer had it, they are very lean from the factory is what i'm told.

the world class arms are about US$700 when i last checked, i've also heard that fab-tech atv makes a T-pin front end for them... I dont recall the price.

the reason the quad pulls back to center the way it does is that the caster angle is about 15-16 degrees where it should be 4-5 degrees... there was a company making a +1 upper arm set that fixes it, but i don't recall who or where they are located...

LRD is now working on a pipe, i talked with arlan at the last WORCS race about it.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Hey dual-sporter do you know about our Motowest Wild300 Monster pipes and engine mods yet?

Steve@Motowest
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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yes i do, i'm considering it for later(tight budget right now)... bone stock it's a quick machine, i can only imagine it with 20 more hp.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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The 20hp Kit is only our Stage 1 kit, you should try our Long-rod Cheater Motor! Holy Cow! Incredible!
Let us know how we can help.
Thanks,
Steve
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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long rod cheater motor? hmmm... sounds like fun, i can dream for now, what's the output & reliability?cost?

i've been racing some GP & mx locally, and the WORCS races in the NW. there's a few pics of me
here...check the albums for a couple more of me...
some coverage of the WORCS events, they have pics from the longview rounds, Saturday & Sunday... i ran vet B & production B. i should be at the idaho round as well.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by: stevesmith
The 20hp Kit is only our Stage 1 kit, you should try our Long-rod Cheater Motor! Holy Cow! Incredible!
Let us know how we can help.
Thanks,
Steve
is there any increase in cc's with the long rod kit?and do you have any hp&torq numbers for that kit
 
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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oh yeah rebelriders.com sell the uper arms,and gasgasatv.com has a fuel comander for the 450,both are reasonable $$$$$
 
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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The long-rod conversion doesn't alter engine size, it develops more power by slowing down the piston speed at any given rpm resulting in longer period of time that the ports are open and also giving the piston more leverage to rotate the crankshaft. One of our customers dyno'ed their road-race quad using this setup along with a bigger carb and a different pipe resulting in 64hp at the back wheels. A pure stock Wild 300 makes 30-32hp at the wheels.
 
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