Can I ask what does any of this have to do with the thread starters question ?

 

Cause the guy was trying to put a 5 year old on a 50 and a 6 year old on a 90 and ol WhoDat don't like it.

And I don't like the fact that WhoDat thinks he's more capable of making decisions that impact people's lives then the individuals themselves.


Hey, it beats daytime television!
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There is a solution -

I bought a couple of two-up ATV's so underaged, inexperienced or good looking back rests (lol) can ride with.

Everyone loves it.

This works really really well. And I actually prefer the new quads even when riding single.

 

Well, lets try and be accurate -

I posted that its hard making the decision to move kids up to bigger faster quads with the way the laws and rules are being more restrictive. (see my first post)

The facts would be more accurately stated in that a few of you guys didn't like THAT!

But there are some that don't like playing by any rules. I wonder what they do for a living......Pilots, doctors, teachers, priests? I hope not.

 

Yes it does beat day time TV. Who dat I understand your position to follow the rules and laws of your state which should be done by everyone but not every state has the same laws. The original thread starter never asked what was the laws and rules for my 6 year to be on a quad, he never asked for a soap box speech about other parents and there faults. He asked a simple enough question on a message board that he felt confident he would get answers to his specific question. If I were new and came in here to ask fellow ATVers which quad is good for my child and the first reply was BUY A PUPPY,NOT A QUAD, I would never come back to this fourm again. If there are threads posted about laws of children on quads then post away or riders in your state in need of help, info, or a good lecture then post away. I have read your posts for 2 days now understand your reasonings and mission, but it does'nt have to be posted in every single thread pay attention to the question at hand and keep it at that. We are all parents in this topic and did'nt come in here to be parented.

 

I really don't think you will be able to find anyone that likes to play by every rule.


whats every one do for a living

 

FsT4WrD wrote:
"Who dat I understand your position to follow the rules and laws of your state which should be done by everyone but not every state has the same laws."

You didn't even read my post - I posted
Not knowing your location - be advised that some state laws are being changed restricting anyone under age 6 having access to any size ATV. Even on private property..... If not familiar - check your state regulations to avoid problems
This is dead on topic

" he never asked for a soap box speech about other parents and there faults."
all I posted was that Here in Minnesota - giving to young of a kid to large of a ATV can cost you your drivers license, having the quad taken away, fines and if injury is involved - child endangerrment charges. The foolish actions of a few parents have really created ....

My other posts were in direct response or part of discussion directed towards me.

So I'm suppose to ignore the people posting questions or participate in discussions directed to me or my knowledge of the legal aspects of the sport?

What I want to know FsT4Wrd if you want to go to the wall with this.

Its out of line.

 

Go to the wall with this ? I am out of line ? Do you just want to bicker ? Are you in need of allot of attention cause not everyone wants to hear what you have to say ? I see it if the original thread starter does not reply to your posts then there is no reason to keep posting in that thread.Or if your post is responded to and has closure to it then why drag it out.

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There you go, he heard you out and responded. Now there is others that like to get you all bent outta shape but if thats what you enjoy then so be it.

 

I really don't think you will be able to find anyone that likes to play by every rule.whats every one do for a living[/quote]


Thats an interesting comment from a Quad Patrol person.

I can expect to find nobody perfect - but I would hope that we are all doing the best we can to do everything we can in this sport to make it safer and expand its availabilty to every family.

Its a great sport. But a few people are ruining it for the others. And children are getting hurt. The question is - should they be.

Imagine someone coming out with a shrunk down Jr size helicopter. Wouldnt that be a blast! Should everyone go out and get one?

Yes its a exageration - but the principles are the same - the difference is that the outcome is more easily forcasted by a greater number of parents then what we have with the risks of operating ATV's

and basically we are talking about little people that just figured out how to not crap thier pants just a dozen or so months earlier.

Thats not to much of a soap box posting is it?

I just try to stimulate thought and get other peoples perspectives. Iron sharpens iron etc... I've learned a lot from the many parents with youth in here.

I beleive the safety and legal aspects need to be made known. It may help someone reading these posts make the best decision for their child.

Or maybe you would prefer no one touch the safety subject and allow the proponents of under age ATV riding rule the forums.

I don't think Dave would agree.

 

With all due respect -

You came in to this discussion with a predisposed agenda without even reading my posts and criticized me.

No, I'm just trying to answer questions as they relate to the laws, rules and regulations. Yes my agenda is for youth safety and I spend significant hours each month trying to provide more riding opportunities to more youth through ATV training programs that allow LEGAL operation.

The opponents of this safety talk take offense because it rubs the cat backwards as it relates to their personal safety decisions. I try to provide both sides of the issue and actually make conscience effort to respond only when directly addressed or queried.

Anyone can choose to not read the thread, not read my posts or tell me to drop dead.

About 5 people out of the thousands of topic reads in this forum have done exactly that.

Five.