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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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i am 13, 5'11 and all i can buy is a fricking 90cc quad ......please
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Has anyone else been afectted byt this stupid rule?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Relax dude, have your dad go and buy it.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 01:19 AM
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Kfx400orangeguy,

You could get your dad to buy a 100+ CC quad for you. It would be under his name. So would its plate (if needed in your region) and insurance. Notice the details within the insurance "fine print". If it states that only 16+ year old is insured while driving, then you probably ain't covered (if you drive it).

Where are you going to drive it? Private Property or public trails??? If public trails, then these trails are most likely patrolled. If a less then 16 year old gets caught driving a 16+ rated ATV, heads could roll pretty bad. Probably your dad's head - since the ATV is under his name.

If you need legal insurance and/or only place to ride is public trails, then you may want to consider driving something else. How about a large frame GO Kart, small frame buggy or Motocross bike??? Many of these have less restrictive age to engine CC laws. This could be an interim solution until you turn 16. From 16+, you could probably drive any Adult size ATV you want - within weight control reasons. I know one guy who switched his large weight kid to motocross bikes for 4 years, then switched back to ATVs at age 16.

From a safety perspective, I would NEVER put my large weight kid on a "too small of mini". Being top end heavy, he'd immediately roll it on the first corner. Sound like you'd immediately roll a 90cc as well. To me, "proper body fit & Proper Rider Control" is always more critical then age to engine CC laws.

Hope these other considerations help as well....

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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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Check your states rules for riding. Only some states use the CPSC recommendations as a basis for law.

Currently, only one of my three sons fits the recommended ATV size. All ride legally on many different riding areas, both public and private and all are insured.

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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by: Kfx400orangeguy
i am 13, 5'11 and all i can buy is a fricking 90cc quad ......please
One of the reasons my boys were raised on dirt bikes.

Its a bummer but, the CPSC rules are needed to protect the manufacturers from a very small percentage of their customers. It is the manufacturers who set the guidlines.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Yeh all you pretty much can do is let ur dad buy it for you and not ride on public trails...thats wat i have to do[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
 
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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I don't think that the under 16 is a rule or law, I think it's just a guideline from the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Where it comes into play is the dealer who won't sell one if they know that someone younger than the CPSC guideline age will be riding it. The manufacturers place those guidelines on the products so that if a 13 year old gets hurt on a 300cc quad, they can hide behind the sticker. Same with the dealer, if they know that the 300 is going to a 13 year old, then if that 13 year old gets hurt, the dealer can get sued. I don't know about insurance issues in your particular state.

From personal experience, my daughter has been riding outside the age reccommendations right from the get go. At 6 she got her first quad, a 50cc. The CPSC guidelines say over 6 for a 50cc. In less than a year she physically and mentally outgrew her 50, so she got her 80cc at age 7; the CPSC guidelines say 12 and over. She is 9.5 now and is 5' tall and weighs over 100 pounds. Physically she is too big for her 80. She is a careful rider, but being only 9, I am hesitant to get her a larger bike. She knows how to ride my 300, including shifting, as I let her ride it solely around the campsite. She is way too young to ride a 300 on the trails or in the dunes. For Xmas this year I will be getting her a mid sized quad, in teh 150 to 200 range, so she can ride that on trails. In the dunes she stays on the 80 for at least one more season or until she proves her abilities on the mid sized quad. (The 80 is all tricked out and has a widened wheel base front and back for stability. In the dunes I like the lower center of gravity just in case she rolls.) On getting her the new quad the rule is going to be if she can lift up the back end and turn it around, she can ride it.

The CPSC guidelines for that sized bike is over 16. I just plan on not telling the dealer that the quad is for a soon to be 10 year old. But I am also not the type to sue either the dealer or manufacturer for MY decision to put my child on a larger quad. I also need to make sure that she is properly outfitted, educated and experienced to ride the larger quad. So the moral of this long rambling story is, just have an adult buy it, don't tell them it's for you, BUT BE SURE THAT YOU CAN BOTH PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY HANDLE A LARGER BIKE.

P.S. We have never, ever had a problem running in public lands, both dunes and trails (Glamis, Ocotillo Wells, Stoddard Wells, Johnson Vallye, Dumont and Adelanto) with her on a larger bike thant he CPSC guidelines. In fact, you quite frequently see smaller children on bikes too big for them! The rangers can't cite anyone for guideline violations, only law violations. So just check the vehicle code for your state to see if the state has any particular laws.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 02:27 AM
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Ok thxs Katboy. I'll just tell my dad to buy it for me. I look a lot older than i am anyway. But when i went to the dealer and looked at a kfx 400 he said he couldnt even sell it to me because im 13 he told me that my dad would have to say its for him so i think thats what i'll do just wondering if i would get in trouble or anything like that thxs all u guys.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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You can't get into any kind of trouble. It's one of those things that the dealer has to be able to claim that he did not know that the quad was going to be ridden by someone under 16. The dealer may really know this, but most will have the purchaser sign a form that lists the possible dangers of owning an ATV - including the fact that this particular ATV is for use only by those 16 and older. That way, If you ride the ATV and get injured it will be difficult for you to sue the dealer for selling you an over size ATV. As long as the purchaser is an adult and signs the release forms, the dealer is pretty much in the clear - that's their main concern.

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