My feelings exactly.

 

Saying you bought a Chin Quad from Pep Boys is like saying you bought a Honda from 7/11. Youc can't buy one Chin Quad from an auto parts store and say they all suck. My son just sold his Chinese 50 that was four years old and still running great. He sold it because he outgrew it and needed a bigger machine, which is also Chinese. I am comfortable saying any of my Chin quads will last as long as a Jap quad of equal size. Why? Because I keep them in top shape and perform maintenance. And I guarantee my son wouldn't have any bigger smile if he was riding Jap or Chinese, but my wallet thanks me every day.

 

Well let's read it a little more, I beleive I also stated that the other chinese quads which have come from actual atv dealers including Pep Boys which is also a licensed dealer of that brand of that time which now they are owned by Baja motorsports, have gone away also. Let me explain in a little more detail. The observations I've seen are from 16 purchased chinese atv's. That is the number of kids that ride my woods well used to, now it's down to two. So that is what I'm refering to. As far as buying from a communist nation, I really don't beleive in it, but what choice do you have, where do you think they are getting all of the steel, plastics, rubber and wood from, the U.S.
Now on the Pantera, I can honestly say that it has been the toughest chinese atv that has been around here, even the Honda prototype engine, which actual Honda parts would fit and work on. I like to tinker around the shop myself, but how much work do you need to do to have fun. My daughter has a Meer Cat 50 what a piece of crap that was, now it is a Meer Cat 70. Even after changing the sprockets, adjusting valves you still had to push her to get her going, after fighting the ATV DEALER Wicked Rocket, they finaly sent me a damaged atv with a new 70cc engine and trans, they were unable to get the new clutch that it needed, changed out and worked great. Now after installing new engine, transmission, chain, sprocket, carb, rear swing arm, seat, gas cap,right front mudflap and battery, haopefully it will last to see the new Predator Outlaw 90cc (Pink LE) delivered in about a week.

So you see I can judge on the Chinese atv's because I've lived the nightmare with them, like I said they are good disposable atv's. We are all entitled to our opinions and a good debate to justify our opinions, after all this ain't china. LOL

In all actuallity it doesn't matter what you have, as long as in the end the kid is happy, routine maintenence is key to anything, My King Quad 700 still looks almost like new even after 502 miles and lots of rocks and mud, the same for my son's Yamaha after 2 years and the same with my wife after 12 years.LOL

 

Predator 90 is a rebadged Chinese machine. Polaris just gave it different plastic (probably from China too). At least your dealer will do the initial set-up on the quad properly (hopefully). Suzuki LT 80 orHonda TRX 90 may be the best you can do to get away from the Chinese stuff.

 

Actually the new 90cc 4-stoke is not Chinese, it is a new engine for them, Going by what three different dealers told me (you can take it for what it's worth) that was the first quwstion I had, they said it is an actual Polaris engine, plus, unlike Honda or Suzuki, Cat, Kawi ,Yamaha, it has reverse and a cvt auto trans and a 2 year warantee, which I have checked and to find that there is few "operator error" clauses. I'm not saying that there isn't any chinese parts, they all have them, (why does japanese and American bikes use metric sizes but the chinese use standard sizes?) and even it is all chinese then I know that that bike has been proven over the years and I can drive to my Polaris dealer and get any part I need or look it up on line. I do like on the Chinese bikes the features such as the lights, brake lights, reverse, and like my girls that has the wireless remote kill/start and the horn. They also have some serious ground clearance issues.

 

The pred. 90 may have some chinese part's as all quad's do. But to put it in the same catagory as the chinese quads is just unamerican.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

Oh, wait A min. your from Canada. Life is different there.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

I was referring to the 2-stroke Pred in my previous comment.
You make a good point -maybe the fix for the Chinese brands lies (hehe- dealers..lies, all lies) in a proper dealer network/support (or lack of). Although it would probably drive the cost up qute a bit, proper initial set-up of the Chinese machines seams to eliminate a good percentage of the common problems with these machines. An accountable dealer(s) would also force pressure down the line to the manufacturer to improve the shortcomings of these quads.

 

Yeah, and I heard that the new Pred 90 is not very good - I looked at it for the reverse, and then bought the Eton Viper 90R with reverse - porabably a better bike, for less money.

Oh, and yeah, life is different here in Canada, and don't ask why - it'll just **** you off!

 

...and my big brother walks up and gives me a shot in the head for no reason at all. Guess thats just what big brothers do. Guess you just live with it, knowing he'll probably die before me.

 

I also came from Canada. But all American now, The Pred will wipe it's a$$ with your E-TON