I have read several posts about the yamaha450 having a hard seat and it reminded me of my cannibal when I first bought it. The stock seat is just as hard. Go pick up a gripper seat off of a Speed. They are so nice on those long trail rides.

 

Yes, gripper seat good , cannibal seat bad.

 

A Cannible seat is not near as hard as the YZF. That is by far the hardest seat I have ever sat on.