....and the atvconnection 'family' simply nods in agreement....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

I'm sorry, but it isn't the difference between right and wrong which has went by the wayside....it's the past, present and future parents on here who could give a crap less who teachs it and how.

 

You know, it is hard not to make this into a generational thing after reading a response like the one above, but this blatent disregard for everyone and everything other than their own personal gratification is just plain wrong. To sit here and talk about running from the cops when you admittedly know that what you are doing is wrong is stupid. Not only are you putting yourself in danger, you endanger others in the process. That I cannot support under any circumstances.

Clearly someone is either expertly pushing our buttons, or missing the point. Irresponsible behavior is no longer tolerable. It doesn't make any difference if you are 18 or 80. Acting out is bad for our sport, and we don't need it.. want it, nor will we continue to tolerate it. Anyone who does, needs to take up golf.

The problem is that persons like me are wracking our brains for ways to gently state that you are an idiot and we would all wish you would go away and take your attitude somewhere else, but sometimes I just have to give up and get nasty. BBALLED is right... when being nice doesn't work, it is time to close the door in your face. I hope you end up getting caught, so that the rest of us can continue to move forward in a constructive manner.

 

ATV Task Force Meeting Scheduled


The next public hearing for the Suffolk County N.Y. ATV Task Force has been
scheduled for Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 5:00 pm in the Evans K. Griffing
County Center, 300 Center Drive, Riverhead, NY

I believe there will be a large number of attendees that may not be in favor of our endeavor. The Pine Barrens commission will be sending letters and inviting property owners adjacent to illegal riding areas. It would be great to turn their anger and concerns into support of a designated riding area. The Task Force has made great progress in the past 3 meetings. Now is not the time to be complacent and leave all of the work up to others. We need your help.

Tell your friends and bring them to the meeting. Call your riding buddies and get them to attend. Remind your dealer about this meeting. A legal area to ride is in their best interest. Your attendance and participation are important.

With the next meeting being held at 5pm instead of the middle of the work day, please make arrangements to attend. This is our best opportunity to earn a legal place to ride. In other words, If you give a damn, show up!

For more info: LIORV



FUTURE MEETING SCHEDULE

August 10 1:30 pm - ATV Task Force Meeting - Committee Reports - Hauppauge
September 14 1:30 pm - Public Hearing - Riverhead
October 12 (Time TBD) - ATV Task Force Meeting - Review draft of report of findings and determinations with recommendations for action, if any - Hauppauge
November 10 (Time TBD) - Final Public Hearing - Hauppauge or Riverhead

 

You run from the cops? I don't know whose stupider, you are your parents. Nice representation of the sport. Go fly a kite instead.
And what happened to LIORV? I heard the were thrown of their property.

 

This illustrates my point completely.... and then they complain about losing riding areas.... and how the authorities are using strong arm tactics etc...

We all grow up someday I guess... Frankly, I am concerned that there won't be a sport in a few years to pass down to my grand kids if we don't manage to police ourselves and rein in these hooligans.

This scenario is playing out in many areas of the country right now. I hope there are enough of us that will stand up and take direct action to save what little we have left. The sad thing is that by acting responsibly, and joining their young voices to the cause.. they could become a potent and credable voice in the debate... but this sort of activity just undermines years of work in about 30 seconds.

I constantly hear from the younger generation that they want us older folks to listen to them... well they need to make sure of the message they wish to share before they earn our trust and their right to be heard. Being a lawbreaker, and putting others in danger, or violating the property rights of others in their quest for instant gratification is nothing to aspire to in my book.

Figure it out soon youngins .. or you won't have to worry about riding your ATV anywhere... because they will be banned. I've lived through this once already... what makes you think it can't happen again?

I'd much rather sit beside you as alies at the negotiation table than to have to point fingers at you as the bad example... Together we could attain so much more...

 

You would think they would use common sense. On Long Island there is no legal place to ride so people ride illegally. They formed a Task Force to investigate illegal ridding and whether or not a legal place would help stop the illegal ridding. The anti's attitude is if they are breaking the law now, why would they stop ridding illegally if they made a park? There argument is very good. Everybody on Long Island who owns off road vehicles knows they can only be ridden on private property so its hard to convince people that only 1% of the owners ride illegally when most do. If we cant police ourselves we will never show the public we can be trusted.

 

Will you be attending the Task Force Meeting in Riverhead?

LIORV INFO

 

I went to the second one and 6 people showed up. I'm going to try and make the next one, a bunch of my friends are going, I need to see if I can get off work.What the story with LIVRO? are they still around?I heard they took peoples money and closed.

 

You have some bad info. The LIORV is spearheading the Task Force Meetings. The reason for the poor showings at the meetings is that they are usually held in the middle of a work day at 1:00. Very difficult for many to attend. This meeting is at 5:00pm on the 18th. There has been much progress made over the last 2 meetings. I would urge all to attend even if you come late.

 

After being impounded I kinda gave up the sport. The fines were ridiculous. I got a Kayaks and a new truck instead. The hot blonde option came after that for camping.....great fun.
Does Liorv still have a track? I heard bad things about them also.
Good luck with the Task Force, where are they looking to put the track?