I dont worry about the cycle guys that refuse to listen to logic.

I look at it this way,in Michigan,ATVers easily out number the cycle's 3-1 and that figure continues to jump even higher with every passing year.If you dont want to listen to logic,than SOON,the numbers will have to do the talking for your sport.

 

They may out number bikes in sales but how many of those quads make it to the trail? The bottom line is that if we dont work together the enemy will use us against ourselves. And no one will have anywhere to ride, will you worry then?

 

Mywifesquad, I wasnt signaling out Bikers or Quaders, Its just the generation period it seems.
There is nothing coming out of going at eachothers choice of trail machines. I ride both, Ride Bikes agressively , and more or less play on the Sportsman. IM one of those guys that can go home to my home place and have hundreds and hundreds of acres to ride on.
Quaders have a tendancy, and Im sorry if I step on anyones toes, but have a tendancey to just destroy the trails. Where Once there was a 6 inch depression in the trail, 8 months later is 3 feet deep with people running 29 inch mudtires and snorkels to get through. Then those with lesser Machines just tend to go around, making the trail wider and wider and it expands from there. Bikers , because of their maneuverability and quick power, tend to shoot Hills off the trails.

 

That is what I thought you meant. Thanks. What model KTM do you ride?

 

99 300 EXC
01 300 EXC
01 200 EXC
04 525 EXC

 

Sweeeeet!!! Do you have a favorite?

 

Yup, the 300 exc, Either year. More toys on the 01, but killer motor, runs like a 4-stroke on the bottom end and a mx 250 across the top. Good flywheel weight, I can chug up a hill a gear high without clutching in the tight stuff.

200 EX is a sleeper, VERY fast through the woods, nice and light.

Theres also a stone stock 87 cr 500 down to the origional chain and sprockets and a 96 kx 500 with close to 90 hp at the rear wheel.

525 is o.k in tight stuff, GREAT suspension over the earlier models. It does best you can hit a single track . You just leave it in second gear and never shift. Acceleration just about on par with the Cr 500.

 

mywifesquad,
in Michigan,there is no question in my mind,there are far more folks riding ATVs ON THE TRAILs than there are off road cycles.I been riding BOTH since 1968 and ATVs have grown so much that we HAVE to address their needs too.The sport is no longer dominated by the use of cycles like in the 60s-70s-and 80s.

Most of the issues I've personally been involved with,allmost allways involves a cycle riding TOO fast for conditions.I dont say this is the case everywhere,but when you read some of the posts made at thumpertalk.com,some of these guys will lead you to beleive that the ATV guys are all the blame for land closers ect.

I certainly agree,we ALL need to work TOGETHER for our own common goal.

 

MUDDY4LIFE, I guess I have been spending too much time reading cyclenews to realize the atv majority in Michigan. All I ever read about is all the effort put into the m/c trail system there. Sounded like the ultimate state to ride a m/c. Now I am thinking Idaho. How many different places do you ride at? The reason I ask is that in central Ca. I have approx 15 different places (within 200 miles)that I can ride and the quad m/c mix is varied at each place. If I go to Pismo beach It is approx 80-90% quads. Twain harte and ride the woods maybe see 2 quads all day. I dont want you to think I dont believe you, I am just getting curious about other states situation's. That has started since I found this forum. I am amazed that some states require you to insure your quad's and m/c's. I would go broke insuring all my toy's.

 

It depends what part of Michigan you ride?If you ride the Lower Pennisula,than you MUST be on Private property with permission OR a DESIGNATED and posted OPEN ORV trail to be legal to ride a dirt bike or a quad.If you have a Secretary of State license plate on your cycle,you can ride most any two track you want,unless its posted as closed.

In the Upper Pennisula of Michigan,two tracks and single track roads are OPEN unless posted closed for Off Road vehicle travel..Michigan is one of the better States to ride.

We have about 3100 miles of DESIGNATED ORV trail to use in Michigan,I have rode about half of this.Michigan does not require insurance YET,but its a good idea to have it anyways.I pay like 108 bucks a year for full coverage on my new 2005 King Quad,not bad!