West Virginia Troopers want ATV's banned from roads
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Here is that write up....
All-terrain vehicles should be banned from paved highways, say state troopers who are asking lawmakers to modify West Virginia's two-year-old ATV safety law.
"When our guys get together, that's the first thing they say: 'We've got to get them off the roads,'" State Police Capt. J.C. Chambers told a legislative interim committee studying ATV safety.
Lawmakers agreed to review the 2004 law after 40 people died in ATV-related accidents last year. So far this year, 52 people have died.
When passing the law, legislators included a provision that allowed ATVs limited access to paved roads without painted center lines. Only 13,000 of the state's 34,000 miles of roads have center lines. ATV tires are not designed for pavement, and few of the vehicles are designed to carry passengers.
"Now, they're just riding everywhere," Chambers said. "The old saying is, you give them an inch and they'll take a mile."
Chambers told the committee it may be impossible to determine how many ATV accidents can be attributed to highway use because the state does not have a uniform reporting form.
Committee co-chairman Delegate Dale Martin, D-Putnam, said he is concerned that a highway ban could hurt business for the Hatfield-McCoy Trails in southern West Virginia.
The State Police ATV committee is asking lawmakers to make the following changes to the law:
_Mandatory helmets for all ATV riders. Only riders under 18 are now required to wear helmets.
_Increase penalties for fleeing law enforcement to include mandatory jail time and impoundment of the ATV.
_Require all ATVs to be titled and registered, and require that all ATVs display registration stickers.
_Increase penalties for second- and third-offense ATV law violations, including jail time and vehicle impoundment for third-offense convictions.
All-terrain vehicles should be banned from paved highways, say state troopers who are asking lawmakers to modify West Virginia's two-year-old ATV safety law.
"When our guys get together, that's the first thing they say: 'We've got to get them off the roads,'" State Police Capt. J.C. Chambers told a legislative interim committee studying ATV safety.
Lawmakers agreed to review the 2004 law after 40 people died in ATV-related accidents last year. So far this year, 52 people have died.
When passing the law, legislators included a provision that allowed ATVs limited access to paved roads without painted center lines. Only 13,000 of the state's 34,000 miles of roads have center lines. ATV tires are not designed for pavement, and few of the vehicles are designed to carry passengers.
"Now, they're just riding everywhere," Chambers said. "The old saying is, you give them an inch and they'll take a mile."
Chambers told the committee it may be impossible to determine how many ATV accidents can be attributed to highway use because the state does not have a uniform reporting form.
Committee co-chairman Delegate Dale Martin, D-Putnam, said he is concerned that a highway ban could hurt business for the Hatfield-McCoy Trails in southern West Virginia.
The State Police ATV committee is asking lawmakers to make the following changes to the law:
_Mandatory helmets for all ATV riders. Only riders under 18 are now required to wear helmets.
_Increase penalties for fleeing law enforcement to include mandatory jail time and impoundment of the ATV.
_Require all ATVs to be titled and registered, and require that all ATVs display registration stickers.
_Increase penalties for second- and third-offense ATV law violations, including jail time and vehicle impoundment for third-offense convictions.
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I agree that atv's should not be operated on paved roads and anyone operating one anywhere, at any age, should have to wear a helmet. What I don't understand is how the committee studying atv related deaths can make up any new laws without proper documentation on exactly how these people are being killed while riding an atv. On paved highway? Drunk? Inexperienced? Reckless? Who is paying for this committee to make blind judgements in one of the poorest states in the nation?
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Troopers feel they have to get these things off the road...because so many people are getting killed on ATV's...but they don't know how many of those deaths are attributable to riding ATV's on paved roads. It kind of looks like the news article is leaving something out. Or, maybe the troopers are feeling pressure from the chronically offended, who are not known to be particularly rational. I'm old enough to remember when they wanted to get motorcycles off the roads. I'm not old enough to remember when they wanted to get automobiles off the roads, but I've seen those old movie scenes where the first cars were irritating the chronically offended by scaring the horses.
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Not sure, but alot of people need to run up or down or across the road to access property that they pay taxes for....I am sure not gonna drive my car down the road to our field....cause my atv is made for that....my 2 cents
another thing... I will not register my quad if they wanna push a dumb law like that.....and yeah I'll prolly buy a faster quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
another thing... I will not register my quad if they wanna push a dumb law like that.....and yeah I'll prolly buy a faster quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by: squeege
Not sure, but alot of people need to run up or down or across the road to access property that they pay taxes for....I am sure not gonna drive my car down the road to our field....cause my atv is made for that....my 2 cents another thing... I will not register my quad if they wanna push a dumb law like that.....and yeah I'll prolly buy a faster quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Not sure, but alot of people need to run up or down or across the road to access property that they pay taxes for....I am sure not gonna drive my car down the road to our field....cause my atv is made for that....my 2 cents another thing... I will not register my quad if they wanna push a dumb law like that.....and yeah I'll prolly buy a faster quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
I could see some kid crossing the road and mister neighborhood $8 per hour officer (needing to show his so called authority) actually locking the kid up and impounding his quad. Of course when anything gets impounded the employees with the wrecker service must vandalize and steal whatever they want.
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Garyc--"I could see some kid crossing the road and mister neighborhood $8 per hour officer (needing to show his so called authority) actually locking the kid up and impounding his quad. "
I wasn't going to say this, and I probably shouldn't, but those WV troopers may be getting just as frustrated chasing kids on quads as Boss Hogg and Sheriff Rosco Coltrain did chasing Bo and Luke on Dukes of Hazard. Just picture that!
I wasn't going to say this, and I probably shouldn't, but those WV troopers may be getting just as frustrated chasing kids on quads as Boss Hogg and Sheriff Rosco Coltrain did chasing Bo and Luke on Dukes of Hazard. Just picture that!
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One that reads the article thats not a resident would probably picture the highways full of atvers and dead bodies laying beside the roads. As a resident that has traveled easily over 2/3's of this state, I can asure you that is not the case.....especially here in the heart of Hatfield / Mcoy country. If WV troopers and our legislators want enact more laws they need to get a grip on exactly why these people are dying on atv's....not just a knee-jerk reaction.....as I posted earlier.
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The real culprit here is the idiots that ride like crazed madmen down the roads slinging mud everywhere, and with no regard to safety of personal property. Put a few beers in them and they go nuts. The injury stats are a smoke screen to get public opinion to speak out. The problem really is enforcment. It is certainly hard to catch an offender if they duck onto the trails and all you have to chase them with is a road vehicle.
The sport as a whole needs to do a better job of self policing, and education. These idiots need to be shown the exit before they ruin things for all of us.
The people surrounding the Hatfield McCoy NEED this industry to live. Complaints and idiots making fools of themselves are not going to help. Time for those of us that really love the sport to bite the bullet and point these people out. Get rid of them.. we don't need them, or want them. If you want to follow rules and act responsibly, I welcome you, but if you want to act like an idiot, then I stand opposed and support law enforcement in their challenge to take you off the trails and roadways.
The sport as a whole needs to do a better job of self policing, and education. These idiots need to be shown the exit before they ruin things for all of us.
The people surrounding the Hatfield McCoy NEED this industry to live. Complaints and idiots making fools of themselves are not going to help. Time for those of us that really love the sport to bite the bullet and point these people out. Get rid of them.. we don't need them, or want them. If you want to follow rules and act responsibly, I welcome you, but if you want to act like an idiot, then I stand opposed and support law enforcement in their challenge to take you off the trails and roadways.
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Originally posted by: Dragginbutt If you want to follow rules and act responsibly, I welcome you, but if you want to act like an idiot, then I stand opposed and support law enforcement in their challenge to take you off the trails and roadways.
Three words. Best. Quote. Ever.