PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- By a 285-to-140 vote, U.S. House members on March 25 approved a bill that closes more than 2 million acres of public land nationwide to off-highway motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles and all other motorized vehicles.

Following congressional maneuvering that breathed new life into the measure after it was defeated just a couple weeks earlier, the lawmakers approved H.R. 146, known as the Revolutionary War and War of 1812 Battlefield Acquisition Grant Program. This bill was formerly known as S. 22, the Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009. etc, etc, etc................


Here's the link to the original story. From the AMA.

http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=760

 

I might could be an admin there also. And I posted it here because it happens to directly relate to this forums format. "Land, Trail and Environmental Issues".

If you clicked the first link you would of saw the first thing said was "The following is from the AMA...". Then you could of went to the AMA and read where they got their facts from.

Do you have a clue how many laws are made with out anyones knowledge?

 

Good deal. The Allagash is an awesome place.

Wildlife Management Areas are operated by US Fish and Wildlife (Dept. of Interior) as opposed to the US Forest Service (Dept. of Agriculture). Totally separate with little to no management techniques in common.

Correct. However, "Wilderness" designation has nothing to do with actual forest. Often times Wilderness areas in the west are at high altitudes where logging and motorized (auto) travel would be prohibitive. Skidding 1000s of logs for 10s of miles on steep terrain is dangerous, expensive and causes great damage to the feeder streams. The runoff into rivers is a big problem at those elevations. So yes, I agree, but Wilderness is not only designated to heavily forested areas. Natural fire also creates fields and openings in wilderness areas.

No. The legislature doesn't work this way. They don't come up with Wilderness and Forest Management Plans. "Wilderness" is designated within a particular forest's 10 year plan. Forest supervisors and their teams of forest rangers, biologists, ecologist, etc decide what should be Wilderness and what shouldn't. The Legislature only votes on what they propose. The forest supervisors and the people in the field doing the actual work don't change with the political winds. They're just doing their job like the rest of us.

Bush = Travel Management. This was his making. We'll have to see where it goes. They've only been in office for 70 something days and their plate is pretty full with other more important things right now.

 

I realize you're an Admin. Good Forum. I think it's the right place here in Land, Trail and Environmental Issues. My point was that it was a direct quote from another site and there was no background information. Just making a point.

Of course. That's why we vote for people that represent us. The information is out there. If anybody wants to know what the congress is doing, the Congressional Record is available for all to see. Who's got the time for that though. Most congress people don't have time to read through it all.

 

My point is there is enough informative information in that post that people who cared could further investigate it and educate themselves on the subject.

The point your missing while your defending your precious almighty is that these land closings are real and effect everyone. This is also way up on the agenda for this administration.

They already banned kids ATV's. All this and way more is happening while you watch the Messiah walk on water. So please don't baffle these threads with BS.

 

It doesn't surprise me at all. In my life I have yet to see a single thing that liberals have done to help anything. To quote the best president in my lifetime "Government is not the answer to the problem, Government IS the problem".

 

How does this help the economy? Guy deserves a chance. Thats all I'll say.

 

Didn't deny that, now did I?

Whatever you say there ADMIN. It's your site. Who's defending the precious almighty? Somebody questions you in the slightest of ways, and they're defending the "almighty" Obama. I'm talking about the Forest Service and the National Park Service closing roads. NOTHING to do with Obama. Obama doesn't close roads. Forest and Park service employees who don't come and go with administrations close roads.

You dont' like what's said about your precious post and it's BS. There's a discussion for ya.

Don't know what to tell you about the kids ban on ATVs. Haven't looked into the law, or how, why or who is responsible.

I'll be sure not to comment on your posts going forward.

 

What doesn't "surprise" you Cody? Can you try and make some sense of this statement. We're talking about road closings and any information backing it up.

You obviously don't understand how road closings work, yet you're so confident the "liberals" are responsible. The BUSH administration is responsible. The Bush administration started closing and reviewing road systems on federal lands; not Clinton or the current Congress.

I'll say it again: "Travel Management" started with the Bush Administration, not the "Clinton administration" or the "liberal controlled House, Senate, and Executive Branch". So let me repeat that one more time, Travel Management started with the Bush Administration. Period.

 

The Bush Administration was a liberal controlled administration. As liberal if not more so that the Clinton Administration.