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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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We need to get rid of the scumbags in us government be nice to get rid of the government period,the pharmecutical co an cut the self interest an corporations off from the nose they breathe from pure an simple.how does 1 achieve this stop buying there products youd see how fast prices come down on stuff.I personally am fed up an fricking tired of social programs.get the illegals out,get ridd of welfare and the people that can work get off ya *** an get a job!
Basically id have to say the rich are f*cking us over pure an simple.Or they are trying to turn our country into a authoritarian nation which they are easily doing as Im seeing it happen unfold before my eyes and half the country is 2 stupid to see it evidently.
At least we can still vote them out. I warned about what would happen if a liberal (socialistic, progressive, communistic leaning) House, Senate, and Executive Branch came together. Now, it's happening. I hope the polls are right and people see what's going on. We'll know more after the elections in the fall. But, it won't do any good just to vote in RINOS (Republicans in name only) either. We need to find people who want to head back towards less government in DC. Once again, at least we can vote.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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was thinking bout it today we need to make political matters less financially viable somehow and let the common man run it not some rich slob thats had money since 1700s like vanderbuilt.Even the tea party people I dont know if there playing into the hands of the prolatariats or not but I see it as them no pun intended there wasting time an just getting tea bagged.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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One good thing about the Tea Party movement is that there is more discussion about the Constitution. Our Founding Fathers were brilliant in my mind. The system they started has kept us a strong nation for over 200 years. Not many nations can say that. We are falling apart because spending is out of hand. The Founding Fathers did not want government centralized in Washington, DC. They wanted the states to decide their own futures on matters of spending, etc. It's been turned on its head and now getting more centralized in DC. It didn't start with Obama either. This goes back to Roosevelt and the "new deal". But, I've never seen so much grabbed up and put under government control as in the past year. Banks, car companies, healthcare. What's next? Watch out for VAT taxes like they have in Europe. It's like a national sales tax added on to all the other taxes our there. Cap and Trade is still being talked about. Even Obama warned that it would cost everyone money and he's for it...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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The federal government couldn't even run "cash for clunkers" right...this worries me

Our health care system here in the USA is in no way geared up to provide services from all those whom have never had insurance who will want every test, exam, appointment, and medication. This will mean we (the ones who have paid for our insurance all along by getting out of bed and going to work) will now play second fiddle.....

And if I hear one more time the "Mass" is the role model for this plan...then I can tell you that I live in Mass and have family in the health care industry....The state of Mass has put many hospitals in jeopardy by not having the money to pay their bills due to lack of business in this state. We let large corporations close up shop to go to Mexico & Asia at the same time we handed out "Mass Health" across the board.....so much so that the hospital my wife works in has to cut health insurance for their employees. So she goes to work and busts her butt, gets her personal insurance cut to provide care for those who get free Mass Health

Arrrrrg!!!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Yep, I also live in Massachusetts where the debt created by Romney's, you-gotta-have-it, healthcare is around a billion dollars after a couple of years.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
Yep, I also live in Massachusetts where the debt created by Romney's, you-gotta-have-it, healthcare is around a billion dollars after a couple of years.
And we are suppose to be the role model for this at the federal level

I feel sorry for my kids, kids, kids......
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
One good thing about the Tea Party movement is that there is more discussion about the Constitution. Our Founding Fathers were brilliant in my mind. The system they started has kept us a strong nation for over 200 years. Not many nations can say that. We are falling apart because spending is out of hand. The Founding Fathers did not want government centralized in Washington, DC. They wanted the states to decide their own futures on matters of spending, etc. It's been turned on its head and now getting more centralized in DC. It didn't start with Obama either. This goes back to Roosevelt and the "new deal". But, I've never seen so much grabbed up and put under government control as in the past year. Banks, car companies, healthcare. What's next? Watch out for VAT taxes like they have in Europe. It's like a national sales tax added on to all the other taxes our there. Cap and Trade is still being talked about. Even Obama warned that it would cost everyone money and he's for it...
Tea Party movement should have got their act together under Bush if they were so worried about the "Constitution". It's going to kill the Republican party, if they weren't in enough trouble already.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FunRide
Tea Party movement should have got their act together under Bush if they were so worried about the "Constitution". It's going to kill the Republican party, if they weren't in enough trouble already.
I'm not denying that the Constitution has been progressively getting trampled in the previous administrations. From what I've read it goes back into the days of Roosevelt and possibly further back. I honestly believe if the Republicans put forth candidates on a less spending, less government, platform they have a winner. Look at the "Contract for America" put forth by Newt Gingrich. Even Clinton saw the writing on the wall and signed some of the Contract into law after it was put on his desk. The main thing I remember was some much needed welfare reform. I believe if the Republicans go back to this kind of stand they'll do very well in the fall. Despite the labels given to the Tea Party I think, all in all, it's people frustrated with the taxation without representation all over again. They aren't listening when every poll shows people did not want the Obama Healthcare made law but they did it anyway using tactics they decried the Republicans for when the Rs did it with much less at stake. I guess we'll see in the fall.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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So has anyone actually seen when all these "benefits" are actually going to be applied to the working public?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseHenden
.....The main thing I remember was some much needed welfare reform.
I don't understand why so much emphasis is placed on welfare. The dollars don't follow the poor. It's a small % of spending when compared to other wasteful programs. What about the corporate welfare in this country? Why the Rep. party spends so much time and effort on the down-trodden, I don't know.....they're an easy target and people can be easily convinced to despise them with minimal marketing efforts. I say, try to focus on the other 85% of the spending. However, I do agree that there's a lot of welfare scams going on that need to be cleaned up, and people should do something for the money they receive. --Not sure what though.....do you require some old lady to go out and clean the streets? Sounds bad, but I don't want them working for me and I don't want to have to work with them. Rather just pay as long as the people getting the money are truly unemployable.....Welfare is a difficult topic. I'm just thankful that I'm not subject to it.
 
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