I guess if Diablo is going to force you to endure some past conversation that you all know absolutely nothing about previously....... and then somehow just lazily copy his dissertation "out of context"........look at what else this guy doesn't care about putting much effort into...........backing himself up!!!

Here was my (old) reply and certainly hope he can come up with something "original" to share with us "next time" [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]......................


Originally posted by Diablo:
...."Yet another topic hijacked by the self righteous, as someone else refered to you as, almost communist, perfect angel........"

(lol)...What part of Indiana did you say you were from? You're kind of confusing me here a little as I'm not sure you know the difference between "left" and "right" ideology when you try to describe me as follows; only a couple sentences later!:

".....then I applaud you, even though I feel sorry for anyone that has to hear your "far right" theories on a regular basis....."

Let's hear it for the Indiana Public School system!

(diablo):
".....To start off....I'm not sure where you got the misconception that these forums are for the purpose of teaching morals into the youth of America......"

Responsible "adults" don't necessarily value the manner in which they communicate with each other as a 'conscious' effort to communicate morals to their children. But when we act like we've travelled farther than the "Indianapolis by-pass" in the way that we conduct ourselves?............God Bless the fact that our children are "always listening".... and they couldn't have any better teachers than the good people of these forums who haven't yet let the self-righteous punks of this world take it over.

"......PARENTS, not you or me, are responsible for raising thier children and teaching them the ways of the world and so on......."

So isn't it a good thing that when we obviously have a few folks on here that are a little "lacking" in the parenting department........coupled with people like yourself who are a lot more worried about getting "caught" than what the law actually ever reads..........that there are others on here who have absolutely no problem with speaking their mind and (most importantly) backing it up?

"....If you claim to be such a perfect role model........"

(lol)... easy now!.....I have asked you before to back up what you say with some kind of reference..........

"....why would you support physical violence, as well as gun violence, as you did in another forum, to the supposed vulnerable youth reading these forums?......"

(LOL)! Do you mean to try and tell us that you want to 'now' start "making things up"???......... and even to the extreme of using 'guns v.s. innocent kids' as your fantasy? (lol)...bring the quotes on, my friend!

Ahhhhh, if they have loud pipes, give em a good old fashioned lesson, that'll teach em! Better yet, if they venture off a trail, shoot em in the head and mount it on the wall! that'll teach em! Great advice, hipocrite.........

PUT THE PIPE DOWN, Diablo! Has rock cocaine invaded even the rural vestiges of small-town Indiana? (lol)!

"....I NEVER mentioned wanting to break rules on the use of alcohol on the premises. If it was against the rules, then we would have just camped elsewhere, where it would be allowed. Did I not make this clear on a previous post?....."

You're killing me!!! (LOL!!!)

What did you "think"..... when somebody up here told you that the rangers would arrest you and hold you on FEDERAL CHARGES for 'drinking'? That all of us would somehow 'now' turn around and believe that all this time "you thought" they were going to drag you all away from your campfire and throw you in jail on federal charges.............and "that" was what you were all "disappointed" and worried about about?

Do you guys 'get out' much or do you think we're all just stupid?

"......I would appreciate it if you are going to hold a respectful debate that you not take peoples words and twist them around in order to make your points seem valid, as you did here and another topic......"

(chuckle)......Better look in the miirror, bub........and again,"please"......we're all waiting patiently for you to dig up all this dirt and make something of it!

".....At least you're contributing something "worthwhile" to the sport.People like me are who are keeping this sport alive by frequenting the various state an privately owned parks, demanding better performing ATVs from the manufacturer, and not to mention keeping countless amounts of people employed be it by the manufacturer or the various small businesses that manufacter performance accessories, sell these accessories, etc. etc., as well as the state parks that employ many people........"

WOW!!! You bought a quad.......you had to ride it 'somewhere'..... or you had to sell it.............you're right......"people like yourself" are definitely the backbone of "what's right" in atving today.........if I can find the town hall in b.f. Indiana........I'm gonna go right up to the mayor and have him name 'a day in May' after ya!

"....I don't claim to be a "perfect" person, and yes, I have broken the rules sometimes, and when caught, suffered the consequences for "MY" actions. I do have respect for "most" regulations that exist, and know that there are "usually" good reasons for thier existence. I just know there is a reason that usually, as was the case at LBL, that they are not strictly enforced....."

I guess "you" can read all of that and somehow make sense of it........as for me?.......I'm really sorry that I took the time to respond to someone who is so cluelessly representative of what is wrong with our young people today. They ought to take the self-righteous nonsense you just uttered and hold it up as an example in our schools of what's wrong with today's youth (unless they all feel the same way

"...My buddy did end up using his spark arrestor, although he didn't need to, after witnessing theamount of bikes that were there with aftermarket exausts......."

Honestly, you're about as stupid as the other guy on here with the "other" spark arrestor question and "crisis"...........you're riding in a national 'forest'...........but your buddy "didn't need to" install his spark arrestor.............. because it turns out that there were other dumbasses already down there doing their best to try and burn the place down........ so he might just as well have "joined them"??????

"...and not hearing one person complain about the noise. Hell, even the deer and wild turkeys that were in the woods didn't even bother, they just went along thier business........"

"Unbelievable!!!"

"Heck...it never bothered dem dare deer and turkeys none!............and I didn't even hear or see one feller who said nuttin' about all the rackit we was makin'!....

('wow'......)

".....but I'm not going to waste my time answering them all, no use, as well as digging up your previous posts in which, yes, you do contradict yourself!....."

(LOL)!

That's "o.k.", diablo........we all know that you 'could'....... 'really' get up here and back your accusations up ...."if you wanted to"......we respect you so much more when we can just "take your word for it". <IMG src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border=0>

"....they don't come on here for your garbage, which is why you usually get laughed off of the topics!!! So, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Moron."

Won't all of us be glad when 'school' starts? (lol).

End of post.


(Actually, I was in error; as Diablo then informed me.......he was a college graduate!!!! )

There's a lesson here.................Don't judge a book by it's cover!

 

wow?!?!?!?!?

 

dont know of too many landowners in glamis/gordons/buttercup, ca. matter of fact, 99% of that areas business and tourism is from the ATV/off road visitors. I for one am positive i can pass these new regulations, but totally oppose the law as a frequent duner. i can understand in even the most upmost rural cirumstances but their is absolutely no one out in these areas i'm speaking of. after hours noise regulations would be a good idea for camping areas and loosely populated areas.

 

Oh no, you got me!!!!! Wow, you should be a detective! Kinda funny, sice Dr. Blackballed P.H.D is the one who brought up the other post to begin with. I simply posted the same response in here because I wanted to save time, call that lazy, thats fine, wouldn't be the first time someone called me that. I admitted being confused with my ideologies, and explained my stance on the alcohol issue. If people want to waste thier time reading through our previous discussions, I invite them to, I'm not going to waste my time quoting all the garbage that he's typed and analyzing it. Although it is kind of funny to see how many people he seems to **** off with his higher than thow attitude. Please Dr. Blackballed P.H.D, show us the path to almighty knowledge and righteousness, so we can all live by your example, so no rules will ever be broken, we can all hold hands and praise you, almighty Blackballed!!!


I've thought about the Spark arrestor issue some more, and am willing to admit that I wasn't looking at the full picture. I wasn't considering the possibility of causing a forest fire. I was only protecting the right to modify ATVs. If trail riding, maybe people should use spark arrestors or other means of avoiding causing a fire. I would hate to be responsible for causing a forest fire, as I'm sure many people would. I'm sure Dr. Blackballed P.H.D. will get off when he sees me admit I was wrong, but at least I admit when I'm wrong.

 

Spark arrestors. Out here in Calif., even the most lax person wouldn't leave the driveway without one. The whole place is one big tinder box.

 

(chuckle):

It's not that we "get off" everytime you admit you're wrong.........it's just that you have a very hard time proving someone "else" is wrong..........yet you have no problem at all with attacking the person who pointed out your error in the first place!

Take what you just said above...........

..."I wasn't considering the possibility of causing a forest fire. I was only protecting the right to modify ATVs. If trail riding, maybe people should use spark arrestors.........

"Maybe?"..........and what is this about "protecting the right to modify atvs"???

You have no RIGHT to modify the sound of ANY atv; beyond what the law allows!!!

The problem is........you want to convince our kids and the rest of this country..... that you DO have this right.

And there are some of us on here who just won't let you get away with it!

Do we need to spell this out to you any more clearly?

 

Who do you refer to when you say "we?" You and your imaginary buddy? I was only saying that "you" get off on being an @sshole, not anyone else. Last time I checked, there were still many aftermarket companies "legally" selling pipes as well as other aftermarket components. You could always try and lobby against them, good luck, I'm sure they deal with ***** like you everyday. Can I legally use these products in every state park? No. Am I allowed to fly up and down the street revving my quad in order to annoy people who live down the street? No. My point is, yes, I still have the right to purchase theses products. So, Mr. ****, unless you want to physically stop me and other people from executing our "right" to modify our quads in any matter we choose, you're going to have to live with it.

 

You missed the point about modifying quads.....you can only mod your ride as far as the law allows. Sure you can go out and buy an obscenely loud pipe but if your riding area laws say that quads can only be so loud then you've only wasted your time and money.

 

Thats true, If you ride at places that have set restrictions on sound, than you have wasted your money! Unless you're an evil uneducated person like myself and break the rules! My group of friends usually frequent places that are private, and that do not require restrictions on sound levels. We do occasionally go to state parks, and, as I stated before, now realize the importance of using spark arrestors.

Thanks for replying without getting all bent out of shape, as others tend to do. Maybe they can learn from you and be able to get thier point across better without turning this into a personal bashfest! yeah, I'm guilty of it too, but I was pushed! I'm usually a nice guy, I promise!

 

[quote]
Originally posted by: Diablo
That's true, If you ride at places that have set restrictions on sound, then you have wasted your money!

(From Diablo; 'not a week' ago):

"....So if my buddy had not had his spark arrester, and had caught grief for being over the db limit, we would have parked it and used a spare, easy as that........."

Doesn't sound like "your buddy" was worried about "wasting his money", was he?........matter of fact, you and he just about had it all figured out!

".......My group of friends usually frequent places that are private, and that do not require restrictions on sound levels......"

Please give us the state, county and township where this is the case............this ought to be good.

".... We do occasionally go to state parks, and, as I stated before, now realize the importance of using spark arrestors....."

So as I said before..........we just run the "loud pipes" until we get caught!

You're just digging yourself in deeper, diablo! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]