Ha ha - love the little johnny rottonass....I think I know that kid. I could just scream when I see parents going out and buying too big of 4 wheelers for their kids. They won't do it with a bicycle why would they do it with a motorized 4 wheeler. Surprised they don't do child endangerment charges against parents who do this.

 

It's a mouse with a helmet and a mousetrap with a big piece of cheese. Reminded me of myself..[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img].
Polarigirl....one word about the parents....REDNECKS!
extremerider2811....does my signature offend you?

 

Ok , short story with question : When I was seeking a quad my wife and I leased out the kids for a month and came up with a good down payment
(kidding) anyway I did all of my wheeling and dealing over the phone , dealer told me I needed a stronger co-signer then my wife , so I convinced
my mom to co-sign ( yes I know , 30 years old and still runs to mommy for money..lol) anyway she agrees and we meet at the dealership , once the paper work starts getting shoved into my moms face she asks " When is he going to start signing? " the finance guy said he is not on the deal cause his credit is not strong enough for a ATV loan , I was ticked but she still did anyway WHAT A MOM [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

So my question is , if I wreck to the point of fubar , will my mom be held accountable ? ............LMAO

 

where is this topic leading?

lol i am glad i started something good, but its all thanks to me reading the newspaper

 

saw an piece on cnn headline news this morning. says the warnings manufacturers are putting on atvs aren't working. maybe instead of instruction or saftey classes, a reading test should be given. most interesting thing about the spot were the pictures of people riding. three different shots, all three were three wheelers . hello cnn, already banned!

 

its the parents own fault for lettin them ride

 

yeah i know what morons,, 3 wheelers were like banned in the 80's early 90's,,,,, i wonder how many people will have enough common sense to not fall for that b/c people who have foruwheelers already no that 3 wheelers are banned

later

 

i think thats its people showing off or just dont know how to ride the right way and ruin it for every one eles. iam 13 and have all i have done was roll on acident but i wouldnt be stupied enough to blams the company. how dumb is that. the parents need to stop bitch!ng on how its the manufacters fuat and need to act more grown up and take some of the blame . just my 2 cents [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Education seems to be the key. Some education comes from youth certification programs where the young people are made aware of the limits to safe, lawfull and appropriete operation. In Minnesota when you get your ATV permit to ride it is the same ID to get your drivers license. Infractions on the ATV will delay your ability to get the DL. When you tell a 14 year old boy that his ATV antics could delay his DL until he turns 18 - you get his attention.

Parents are now getting a education along with the oppertunity to pay tuition - when the CO calls Dad at home and asks if he owns a red Honda ATV - he's told where to pick up his kid and his quad, and to bring his checkbook.

Some communities are enacting a "rules sticker" law that says you can't ride without having a "I've read the rules" sticker on your quad. Not having the sticker is primi-facia reason to impound the atv. Its a tough law that gives law enforcement an edge. Here in my community I'm pushing to enact the same sort of ordinance in response to a strong movement to ban ATV use within the township limits. We will also provide youth training courses where under 16 can run machines over 90cc after demonstrating they can handle the atv and fit the quad. Its a State program that requires an average of 40 hours of computer based study, a pre-qualification test, and a supervised written test with a demonstrated ability segment where the candidates ride a predescribed obstacle course.

I read the CPA papers and the statistics they report should cause alarm to consider the situation. The CPA agenda is leans towards quads getting heavier, more powerful and faster. The truth is - motors are getting bigger - not smaller. At some time there will be 1800cc quads - I imagine a goldwing style 4 cylinder water cooled shaft drive setup as already existing on the two wheeled version. With a 100+mph quad weighing somewere around 1200 pounds being just around the corner - the CPA is questioning todays existing data that says that more people are being more seriously injured - disporportionetly to the increase in number of riders. As a surviver of a back flipped 1000 pound quad - I tend to agree that a 500 pound atv is less hazardoud then one twice that size. When do we cross over between ATV and jeep/dunebuggy? Do we want 14 year olds going 100mph down trails headed straight for us or our wife and kids?

If we could get every 14 year old kid through a safety program now - we wont have as large of number of out-of-control drunken 20 year olds 6 years from now.

Food for thought anyways.




There are always those who need special attention. God blesses all of us with different measures of his Grace. Be thankful your not one of them.

 

Great post, Who Dat...........we are so far beyond hoping that parents get "responsible" without penalties to persuade them; that it isn't even funny.

What great programs you folks have.

Linking responsible behavior to these teenager's driver's license...........telling Mom or Dad to bring the checkbook when their kids get caught...........simply impounding atvs if they don't obey the rules that are sitting right there between their legs (how is some kid or adult going to plead 'ignorance' when caught violating under 'this' rule?).

Those of us out here who have been hollering about youth/adult safety advocacy and a better relationship with law enforcement as being the two keys for saving this sport; are about tired of this "parental responsibility" crap..........it's the parents 'responsibility' to either supervise little Johnny properly.........or suffer the consequences of hauling license-less Johnny around until he's 18 and/or contributing a several thousand dollar atv to the local sherrif's department's enforcement fund. This double edged sword takes care of the parents who could care less about money; but sure as hell get mighty uncomfortable trying to explain why their kid is almost 18 and rides his 'bicycle' to work.

The same theory goes for "adults" in regards to the other two issues which are killing us.........sound issues and trespassing.

Does anybody on here have some kind of problem with the concept of being "responsible" for your actions?