03 Shee vs 87 Buick GN????

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Old 10-25-2004, 01:50 PM
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Not being able to get real (only estimate) info on the GN I went searching for their stock information. Any body interested here is the link

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Seems the 87's were the fastest and were low 14s cars in stock trim with the 87 GNX being rarer and a mid 13s car.

The 87 GN (not GNX) topped out the 1/4 at 83MPH so a 75 MPH banshe that would be running 75 at the 1/8th would stand a good chance of holding off a stock GN.

Of course anyone who has a stock GN or at least nearly stock one and a willing banshee rider could easily prove this point wrong.

now of course the GN would blow by pretty fast when it did make up the loss of ground from the first 1/8
 
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Old 10-26-2004, 11:38 AM
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Mmmm. The GNX. I'd give my left ******** for one of those. Sweet car, very well built.
 
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Originally posted by: Cheapass
Mmmm. The GNX. I'd give my left ******** for one of those. Sweet car, very well built.
Yes they are sweet as all the GN's and I really like them alot and after reading some technical spec's on them I like them more. With praise said I would never buy one either, my only issue besides not having a V8 is the average on looker does not separate them from regular Buick's and they just assume they are black sedans. I have over heard people conversing at car shows and what not who do not know what they (GN’s) were complain that they could not believe someone would enter a regal in a car show. I have corrected them when appropriate but for prestige I would rather have something everybody relates to as something special and not just the auto enthusiast crowd.

As far as turbo goes I would still rather have a V8 car and a V8 car super charged or turboed would be even better if forced air is you cup of tea. Running good numbers on all motor has always gained more attention at the tracks during grudge night regardless of the cylinders or cubic inches. Seems blower, NOS, and Turbo motors are expected to be fast.

Now my 1971 Dodge Challenger RT or 1969 Road Runner are rarely confused with other cars.
 
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im not going to test it because 1. its in storage and this post was done back in the summer. 2. no insurance on it only storage insurance. 3. im trying to sell it so the less i drive it the safer it is. 4. does that make sense as to y i dont have new times for it?
 
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Originally posted by: Superballs5337
im not going to test it because 1. its in storage and this post was done back in the summer. 2. no insurance on it only storage insurance. 3. im trying to sell it so the less i drive it the safer it is. 4. does that make sense as to y i dont have new times for it?
Makes sense now but does not make sense why you didn't test after you fixed ALL the excuses. I guess you will have to live with the fact you owned a 14.6 second (slower than the average stocker) GN and only have day dreams of what it could have been.

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1. storage? Is it time-locked or something and will only open next summer?
2. insurance? Drag strips do not require insurance, heard of a trailer right?
3. sell? Would sell better with facts not excuses and unless you are a very accident prone person the stats say you would be ok for a blast down the track
4. sense? Answered above.

To answer your original question given the numbers YOU gave then yes the Banshee will out run you. I think 13 seconds has always been faster than 14.6 seconds, unless you have a magical clock.


 
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Old 10-27-2004, 11:16 AM
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Banshee as stated here:
Originally posted by: kwiknik
I know a Banshee that run 82 in the 1/8 mi @7.75 and it is damn near topped I'm pretty sure he would run a13 maybe a 12 in 1/4. I also saw a 727 Raptor run only 8.3 at the 1/8 th and 13.87 at the 1/4 @83 mph. They will only let us run the 1/8 at our track but some others they let 4-wheelers run the 1/4. So it wouldn't surprise me if he beat you.
Covered the first 660 feet in 7.75 seconds and was running 82mph. Assuming that is topped out for the Banshee lets convert the MPH to ft/s

If you get lost it is OK to ask questions.

82 miles
--------
1 hour

82 miles 1 hour 82 miles
-------- x -------- = --------
1 hour 3600 sec 3600 sec

.023 miles/sec

Now, what would you multiply miles/sec by to get feet/sec?

82 miles 5280 feet 82 x 5280 feet
-------- x --------- = --------------
3600 sec 1 mile 3600 sec

So that ends up at 120.3 ft/s

Now take 660 feet and divide by 120.3

Leaves you with 5.49 seconds

Add this back to the 7.75 and you have a 13.24 sec Banshee running 82 MPH

Remember what applies to cars does not apply to quads. Off the line is where drag racing is won or lost.

If your friend’s Banshee runs 84 MPH as you said is verified it could very very very easy run a 13s 1/4 if it is pegged out in the 1/8th

Car illustration
My truck ran 84.2 in the 1/8th at 8.4s

Using the same formula

If I held 84.2 I would run a 13.8, but using most online 1/8 to 1/4 estimators I should run 13.3 which stands to reason because I will pick up a little more speed before the traps.

So again you will only know by actually racing but since you like to bench race the above listed banshee would out run you end of story.

 
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78 MPH in the 1/4 @ 10.985 seconds is possible too. Just proves the first 1/8th as you stated was not "were it is at" is more important that the last 1/8th.

Look At Fridays results for Bernstein
 
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14.6 with major problems. second tracks may not require insurance but i want insurance incase somethign was to happen. and if i have the car around next spring i will run it again and get times. maybe i am just speculating about times but it gives an idea. buy my priority now is to sell my car and get a 66 GT0 389 tri power. so thats what im working for now.
 
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Default 03 Shee vs 87 Buick GN????

BB I not sure why anyone would mess with a teacher tryin to challenge him on a simple mathmatical equation. Common sense any idioty should know from basic algebra if train A is traveling at 40 mph and train B going 60MPH they start 100 miles apart whose side of half way will that pass on? DUHH
 
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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
BB I not sure why anyone would mess with a teacher tryin to challenge him on a simple mathmatical equation. Common sense any idioty should know from basic algebra if train A is traveling at 40 mph and train B going 60MPH they start 100 miles apart whose side of half way will that pass on? DUHH
Yes I know but this guy thought since 15 and 16 second cars were running in the 80's then that would be a good comparison to the Banshee. Never to realize that the Banshee was doing this at the 660ft mark where those cars he was comparing with were probably only in the 50's or 60's at that point.

I did the math for him and the answer to his question is yes the Banshee that was listed with documented stats vs. his documented states for his GN result he would get be eating crow in the end.
 


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