OT: Associates Degree?
#21
Personally, I can't wait to put the drill to people's teeth (dentist), I've always liked the sound if it, it's kind of sounds like a two-stroke going through whoops.
Scaring little kids with big syringes must be a hoot, talk about having fun.
Scaring little kids with big syringes must be a hoot, talk about having fun.
#22
I am currently going for my bachlors or maybe my masters degree in mechanical engineering....we have to take 3 different calculus classes(hardest math class offered), two physics classes(hardest class offered here at the university), some chemistry classes, thermodynamics, hydrodynamics....and much more......thank yourselves that you aren't taking these classes.....I'm about to go crazy!!!! But I guess one day, hopefully I will get to work for Polaris and hopefully test drive these quads, and hopefully(what really matters) the pay will be a lot better. A starting engineer gets in the average area of around $70,000.
#23
No matter what degree you get....just get it. It will pay off down the road when you get promotions, plus it will help you market yourself. I started out with two associates degrees (AS in Chemistry and AS in Process Technology) and they helped me get a great job working in an analytical laboratory. Then I decided to go further and get my BS in Environmental Chemistry and now I work for a research company for SHELL. It will pay off....trust me! Good luck!
#24
Programming especially varies where you are located. I have many years experience in C/C++, Visual Basic, HTML, PHP/MySQL, Perl, Unix Shell Scripting, x86 Assembly (Win32/Unix/BIOS Level), Cascading Style Sheets, minor XML and JavaScript. My primary focus is secure infrastructure design
and secure software programming under Unix and Linux environments. Even with my experience, I still at many times find myself doing very simple
and boring jobs like making photo galleries for companies websites, simple web forms, content filters for schools etc etc etc....
Once in awhile I do get a job designing a network infrastructure based on security for law firms and that kinda stuff. The money is great there because
I usually make the network sniffers, firewalls and intrusion detection systems and auditing libraries myself which for me is over $50 an hour which is
awesome. But those jobs are very seldom around here because the demand is so little. Plus, there is always some moron who will do it for a pathetically
low price which isnt even worth his/her time, will do a crappy job but lie out of their teeth that the job that was done is completely backwards compatible,
safe, non time consuming, effective and failsafe etc etc etc or whatever the demand may be. It's either that or they will pay the shmo twice as much
as me and still do a crappy job.
Plus, jobs around here are very screwy and people want the craziest things MOST of the time. For example, a local hospital requires and 4 year
degree to simply plug a machine into their network which runs DHCP. However, to reconfigure their Cisco routers in their server room, they only
require a 2 year degree. Most jobs around here that only pays $9 an hour for a basic data entry job will require the 2 year degree which is complete
b/s to me.
There is a local wireless company around here (shall remain nameless) that advertises safety and security. However, when a friend of mine which
have been expierenced with security for a very long audited their network (bounced and tunneled our packets around the world, on a slow sneaky manner)
found the exact opposite. We found wireless equipment running DHCP without ANY encryption what-so-ever, in which all traffic was sniffable(all customers and servers), plus we found a few 3com switches and some routers didn't have any passwords.
And these are the guys that people call to get them to setup their network.
I hate computers.
Be careful though, try to get the word around of how good you really are in a professional way. Companies constantly fall victim to retards who
setup p166 machines with 64mb of ram in a demanding environment and call it a "cost effective" solution. Then the company who doesn't know any
better says "wow omg u guys rock!", then 6 months later when the demand kicks in, they seem to always call the same retards to help with their
recent server failure and they do the same crappy work.
and secure software programming under Unix and Linux environments. Even with my experience, I still at many times find myself doing very simple
and boring jobs like making photo galleries for companies websites, simple web forms, content filters for schools etc etc etc....
Once in awhile I do get a job designing a network infrastructure based on security for law firms and that kinda stuff. The money is great there because
I usually make the network sniffers, firewalls and intrusion detection systems and auditing libraries myself which for me is over $50 an hour which is
awesome. But those jobs are very seldom around here because the demand is so little. Plus, there is always some moron who will do it for a pathetically
low price which isnt even worth his/her time, will do a crappy job but lie out of their teeth that the job that was done is completely backwards compatible,
safe, non time consuming, effective and failsafe etc etc etc or whatever the demand may be. It's either that or they will pay the shmo twice as much
as me and still do a crappy job.
Plus, jobs around here are very screwy and people want the craziest things MOST of the time. For example, a local hospital requires and 4 year
degree to simply plug a machine into their network which runs DHCP. However, to reconfigure their Cisco routers in their server room, they only
require a 2 year degree. Most jobs around here that only pays $9 an hour for a basic data entry job will require the 2 year degree which is complete
b/s to me.
There is a local wireless company around here (shall remain nameless) that advertises safety and security. However, when a friend of mine which
have been expierenced with security for a very long audited their network (bounced and tunneled our packets around the world, on a slow sneaky manner)
found the exact opposite. We found wireless equipment running DHCP without ANY encryption what-so-ever, in which all traffic was sniffable(all customers and servers), plus we found a few 3com switches and some routers didn't have any passwords.
And these are the guys that people call to get them to setup their network.
I hate computers.
Be careful though, try to get the word around of how good you really are in a professional way. Companies constantly fall victim to retards who
setup p166 machines with 64mb of ram in a demanding environment and call it a "cost effective" solution. Then the company who doesn't know any
better says "wow omg u guys rock!", then 6 months later when the demand kicks in, they seem to always call the same retards to help with their
recent server failure and they do the same crappy work.
#25
Right on pimp.......
Im planning on going to work for Wal-Marts Information Systems when I graduate, they have some of the best computer database security facilities I have seen......They dont pay the best, but its a great place to start if nothing else.
Im planning on going to work for Wal-Marts Information Systems when I graduate, they have some of the best computer database security facilities I have seen......They dont pay the best, but its a great place to start if nothing else.
#26
Wow lots of good information here...I am going to be going to Minnesota State U. this coming fall and i am going to go for a bachelors in computer science...I have taken the first course to become a CCNA and have taken two courses in C++ and 3 in Visual basic already. I am also the person that the teacher who teaches these classes relys on when a computer breaks down due to one thing or another...So I think I have a decent background to start off with. Chances are when I am in college I will also take the rest of the classes to become CCNA'd and then possibly take the classes for the next level up...Can't think of it right now though
#27
That's cool man, a CCNA is a nice certification for sure...good luck on that. I think CCNP is the next level up by I am not sure,
I haven't looked into Cisco stuff for a long long time. If have a few exam preps on my netbsd box somewhere if you want them. Plus a few
guys I used to work with are CCNA's if you ever need anything.
Not saying you need help or anything, just that we sometimes have cisco switches and routers laying around that people get public
access and can monkey with if they want.
:-)
I haven't looked into Cisco stuff for a long long time. If have a few exam preps on my netbsd box somewhere if you want them. Plus a few
guys I used to work with are CCNA's if you ever need anything.
Not saying you need help or anything, just that we sometimes have cisco switches and routers laying around that people get public
access and can monkey with if they want.
:-)
#28
the first course was baiscly telling us the structures of the variouse models and what not....no real hands on stuff except like making the cat-5 cables and then hooking a whopping 2!!! yes count them 2!!! computers together and made them talk to each other
#29
Originally posted by: MnFriesen
I am going to be going to Minnesota State U. this coming fall
I am going to be going to Minnesota State U. this coming fall
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