Valvoline ATV oil
#1
Anyone ever try either of the Valvoline oils...either the ATV oil or the MC oil.
Here is the link for Valvoline's website for the ATV oil:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=77
Here is the link for the MC oil:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=76
This stuff is like $3-something at Kragen. Any thoughts???
Here is the link for Valvoline's website for the ATV oil:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=77
Here is the link for the MC oil:
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=76
This stuff is like $3-something at Kragen. Any thoughts???
#3
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Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
#5
Originally posted by: GJRonK
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Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
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Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
My machine does not have any gears to lube in the tranny....so I really don't see a problem
#6
Originally posted by: GJRonK
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Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
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Why would you use a cheap petroleum oil in your machine? Use the best synthetic (I use Amsoil, myself) for the best protection. You only add at oil changes, probably, which is every 100 hours. That means you'll use two to six quarts in a season. Your machine is worth that much, isn't it?
GJRonK
#7
I remember learning in auto that some of the best oil is Wal-Mart's Supertech.....cuz they've got the money to do make it good and it keeps them from getting sued makes sense right?
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#8
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Originally posted by: RaptorRandy27
Race engines generally change their oil every 2 minutes to 2 hours depending on what kind of racing. And you have never had an oil related failure? In what, the 100 hours, or often MUCH less, those engines run before they are completely rebuilt? They might have all kinds of wear, but so what if they don't have to last very long. Besides, the type of oil advertised on the side of a race car has no bearing on what oil is used for the race--insiders know this.
ATVs ride at high temps and dusty conditions for 100 hours before changing oil and the engine is nowhere as efficient as the high dollar one, so it can get much dirtier inside. But with good oil and a clean air filter, they may go 10,000 hours, or more before needing a rebuild.
I use Amsoil as my research has shown it to be the best available. For most people, probably changing the oil regularly is more important to the engine than the brand. As to synthetics vs. petroleum based oil--there is no question that synthetic is more efficient and versitile. For these decisions, you have to look at engineering tests, not just advertising.
I won't try to change anyone's mind if they think their oil is best and it makes them happy. Look at how many riders swear their tires are the best, or a Polaris is better than a Honda. Or could I convince you my Ford is better than your Chev?
GJRonK
Originally posted by: RaptorRandy27
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410 cid Winged sprint car racers trust their 800 HP $40,000 engines to Valvoline 20-50 non synthetic racing oil. I have run Valvoline in every race engine I have ever built as well as in Muscle cars and ATV's including my Raptor 700R and have never had an oil related failure. IMHO it's some of the best out there and ton's of racers agree. If it's good enough for the high dollar engine in the sprint car it's good enough for my 700R .
410 cid Winged sprint car racers trust their 800 HP $40,000 engines to Valvoline 20-50 non synthetic racing oil. I have run Valvoline in every race engine I have ever built as well as in Muscle cars and ATV's including my Raptor 700R and have never had an oil related failure. IMHO it's some of the best out there and ton's of racers agree. If it's good enough for the high dollar engine in the sprint car it's good enough for my 700R .
ATVs ride at high temps and dusty conditions for 100 hours before changing oil and the engine is nowhere as efficient as the high dollar one, so it can get much dirtier inside. But with good oil and a clean air filter, they may go 10,000 hours, or more before needing a rebuild.
I use Amsoil as my research has shown it to be the best available. For most people, probably changing the oil regularly is more important to the engine than the brand. As to synthetics vs. petroleum based oil--there is no question that synthetic is more efficient and versitile. For these decisions, you have to look at engineering tests, not just advertising.
I won't try to change anyone's mind if they think their oil is best and it makes them happy. Look at how many riders swear their tires are the best, or a Polaris is better than a Honda. Or could I convince you my Ford is better than your Chev?
GJRonK
#9
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Originally posted by: squeege
Squeege,
I don't know who manufactures Yamaha's oil. Generally, companies like that change periodically based on who bids the best price, although I imagine (but don't know that) most ATV/motorcycle/snowmobile companies recommend and sell synthetic oil under their own brand name.
But let me back up here--I apologise for implying Valvoline's ATV and motorcycle oil is cheap (meaning not very good). I don't know that and I shouldn't have said it that way. However, I stand by everything else I have said in this post.
GJRonK
Originally posted by: squeege
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If you are refering to the valvoline atv oil as cheap...then yamaha's brand name oil is prolly cheap too....
My machine does not have any gears to lube in the tranny....so I really don't see a problem
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If you are refering to the valvoline atv oil as cheap...then yamaha's brand name oil is prolly cheap too....
My machine does not have any gears to lube in the tranny....so I really don't see a problem
I don't know who manufactures Yamaha's oil. Generally, companies like that change periodically based on who bids the best price, although I imagine (but don't know that) most ATV/motorcycle/snowmobile companies recommend and sell synthetic oil under their own brand name.
But let me back up here--I apologise for implying Valvoline's ATV and motorcycle oil is cheap (meaning not very good). I don't know that and I shouldn't have said it that way. However, I stand by everything else I have said in this post.
GJRonK
#10
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Originally posted by: GJRonK
I take it you are not at all familiar with the rigors winged sprints put on their engines? A weekly Sprint on a local level, you run 25 nights of racing on the same engine, thats hot laps, time ins, heats and main events. Usuallly you have very little heat in the engine when the green flag drops. You imediately jump on the throttle and run it flat on the floor or close to it and turn it 7800 to 8200 Rpm lap after lap for on averge of 50 to 60 laps a race night on a 3/8 to 1/2 mile track for 25 race nights, most local racers change their oil every other race and no one I have known in all my years of racing sprint cars used amsoil. Not that it's no good it's just not our choice. I sure as hell didn't dump the oil out of my 69 Pro street nova's L88 427 after 2 mins of run time. I'd run it for 1000 street miles then change the oil. I ran tons of N20 threw tha engine and others like it over the years and turned them to RPM unknow to man at times and never had an oil related failure. All had Valvoline in the pan or dry sump tank. I have over 200 Hrs on my 700R and upon recent inspection it still looks new inside. The proof is in the pudding when you find something that works why change?
The original question was is Valvoline good oil, I answered that and backed it up with what I have experienced and seen. You were the one that said Valvoline was cheap oil, I was merley giving an educated opinion based on my knowledge of the product after many years in the racing game.
Originally posted by: GJRonK
Originally posted by: RaptorRandy27
Race engines generally change their oil every 2 minutes to 2 hours depending on what kind of racing. And you have never had an oil related failure? In what, the 100 hours, or often MUCH less, those engines run before they are completely rebuilt? They might have all kinds of wear, but so what if they don't have to last very long. Besides, the type of oil advertised on the side of a race car has no bearing on what oil is used for the race--insiders know this.
ATVs ride at high temps and dusty conditions for 100 hours before changing oil and the engine is nowhere as efficient as the high dollar one, so it can get much dirtier inside. But with good oil and a clean air filter, they may go 10,000 hours, or more before needing a rebuild.
I use Amsoil as my research has shown it to be the best available. For most people, probably changing the oil regularly is more important to the engine than the brand. As to synthetics vs. petroleum based oil--there is no question that synthetic is more efficient and versitile. For these decisions, you have to look at engineering tests, not just advertising.
I won't try to change anyone's mind if they think their oil is best and it makes them happy. Look at how many riders swear their tires are the best, or a Polaris is better than a Honda. Or could I convince you my Ford is better than your Chev?
GJRonK
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410 cid Winged sprint car racers trust their 800 HP $40,000 engines to Valvoline 20-50 non synthetic racing oil. I have run Valvoline in every race engine I have ever built as well as in Muscle cars and ATV's including my Raptor 700R and have never had an oil related failure. IMHO it's some of the best out there and ton's of racers agree. If it's good enough for the high dollar engine in the sprint car it's good enough for my 700R .
410 cid Winged sprint car racers trust their 800 HP $40,000 engines to Valvoline 20-50 non synthetic racing oil. I have run Valvoline in every race engine I have ever built as well as in Muscle cars and ATV's including my Raptor 700R and have never had an oil related failure. IMHO it's some of the best out there and ton's of racers agree. If it's good enough for the high dollar engine in the sprint car it's good enough for my 700R .
ATVs ride at high temps and dusty conditions for 100 hours before changing oil and the engine is nowhere as efficient as the high dollar one, so it can get much dirtier inside. But with good oil and a clean air filter, they may go 10,000 hours, or more before needing a rebuild.
I use Amsoil as my research has shown it to be the best available. For most people, probably changing the oil regularly is more important to the engine than the brand. As to synthetics vs. petroleum based oil--there is no question that synthetic is more efficient and versitile. For these decisions, you have to look at engineering tests, not just advertising.
I won't try to change anyone's mind if they think their oil is best and it makes them happy. Look at how many riders swear their tires are the best, or a Polaris is better than a Honda. Or could I convince you my Ford is better than your Chev?
GJRonK
I take it you are not at all familiar with the rigors winged sprints put on their engines? A weekly Sprint on a local level, you run 25 nights of racing on the same engine, thats hot laps, time ins, heats and main events. Usuallly you have very little heat in the engine when the green flag drops. You imediately jump on the throttle and run it flat on the floor or close to it and turn it 7800 to 8200 Rpm lap after lap for on averge of 50 to 60 laps a race night on a 3/8 to 1/2 mile track for 25 race nights, most local racers change their oil every other race and no one I have known in all my years of racing sprint cars used amsoil. Not that it's no good it's just not our choice. I sure as hell didn't dump the oil out of my 69 Pro street nova's L88 427 after 2 mins of run time. I'd run it for 1000 street miles then change the oil. I ran tons of N20 threw tha engine and others like it over the years and turned them to RPM unknow to man at times and never had an oil related failure. All had Valvoline in the pan or dry sump tank. I have over 200 Hrs on my 700R and upon recent inspection it still looks new inside. The proof is in the pudding when you find something that works why change?
The original question was is Valvoline good oil, I answered that and backed it up with what I have experienced and seen. You were the one that said Valvoline was cheap oil, I was merley giving an educated opinion based on my knowledge of the product after many years in the racing game.


