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2001 Scrambler 90cc NO BETTER THAN IDLE

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Old 04-12-2011 | 02:13 PM
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I have been trying to resolve this same issue and have gone through all of the above and below aforementioned items without any luck. But recently had a friend suggest a simple diagnostic trick that solved the problem. When this happens the gas cap off, place mouth over the tank and blow into the tank and see if this resolves the problem... and it did. I bought this sportsman used and I believe the fuel lines are colappsing. Either way this resloves the p[roblem until it's time to pt fuel into it again or the fuel gets low again
Just place your thumb over the air inlet tube blocking air flow while starting,will allow engine to draw in fuel better when starting whether its an electronic or manual choke model.They just don't have a lot of vacuum getting fuel into cylinder. Had a lot of problems on starting with these little ones,until we received an"in house bulletin" about starting procedure from Polaris! Try this out,better than having your mouth on a tank full of gas I believe! old,old posts,way back to 2004! OPT
 
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Old 06-01-2011 | 11:19 PM
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I found this thread doing a Google search while I was trying to get my 2001 Polaris Scrambler running after a long off season. The little beast would start but then slowly sputter out and would never stay running long enough to warm up and be able to drive. Cleaned the air filter, checked and cleaned the spark plug and still couldn't get it to stay running. Then I read your solution of plugging the air intake and that did it! It runs. Thanks so much for the advice and for providing a forum to help with the various problems that pop up with these machines!

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Old 06-06-2011 | 06:24 PM
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there have been dozens of people(including myself)who have posted about this same issue.after over a year of replacing parts and rebuilding engine,i have finally found the solution.replace the electric choke in the carb.with a manual kit from lakesmotorsports.com in waterford,mi.the best $60 i ever spent!if you are handy with a vom meter,you will be able to use the new switches that you get with the kit or you could just leave your current ones.i would not post this if it did not work because i was hoping for a year to see a post that worked,now i hope that i can help just like someone helped me.
 
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Old 06-06-2011 | 07:12 PM
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Yes I also replaced a bunch of electric chokes with the manual choke kits as parents became frustrated as they became available and they helped,but if they sat for any length of time some would still have starting problems with not enough vacuum to pull in the fuel. We received the Polaris bulletin on blocking off air flow for early machines with the electric choke and the manual choke later models or ones that had the early choke kits. Some would have no problem at all cranking, others would just struggle! Plus almost every brand new one out of the crate even with the manual chokes we serviced still had to have the air tube partially blocked to get them to first fire up! All this for the most part ended when they went to the four stroke kids machines,hardly ever had a problem on servicing these up. Would just start right up and just had to adjust the idle sometimes when warmed up. OPT
 
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Old 06-06-2011 | 09:22 PM
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good point.even during this whole ordeal,when i wanted to start up quickly,i would hold my hand over the intake tube.it just sucked after that!i know for sure that it is a problem with the electrical to the choke and not the choke itself.tried multiple new and known working carbs with electric chokes.nice to have it right for the first time in a long time
 
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Old 06-06-2011 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepcrazy
good point.even during this whole ordeal,when i wanted to start up quickly,i would hold my hand over the intake tube.it just sucked after that!i know for sure that it is a problem with the electrical to the choke and not the choke itself.tried multiple new and known working carbs with electric chokes.nice to have it right for the first time in a long time
This was basically the same electrical enrichment system used on the old Honda Spree 50cc scooter also! They never in my opinion work right either.The principle was for the plunger to close as the machine warmed up,but as you have stated I don't think most of em worked properly. OPT
 
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Old 06-07-2011 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by old polaris tech
still had to have the air tube partially blocked to get them to first fire up! . OPT
Just to make sure I understand correctly, do you just have to block offn air intake while warming up the machine? Or does it need some permanent blockage?

I've only used your guidance to get it started and keep it idling, not longer than I few minute (just to see if the method would work).

Thanks again for all the great tips!

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Heading to Coral Pink Sand Dunes in So. UT soon, got to get that little Scrambler cranking for the kids.
 
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Old 06-07-2011 | 02:14 AM
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Just to get em started only,after that they usually will run on there own ,they will usually crank back up if you kill em usually with no problems. OPT
 
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Old 06-11-2011 | 11:30 PM
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This solution worked great! Took a little while to get it warmed up, but after that the kids enjoyed riding at Coral Pink.

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Old 06-11-2011 | 11:57 PM
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Just keep marine stabilizer in the fuel tank(better on ethanol gas than other stabilizers) and keep the battery charged and shouldn't have a problem starting in the future. Good luck OPT
 


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