id have to say bush also...i dont want no damned enviromentalist anti-ATV liberal UN pu$$y for a president...especially one who cant make up his mind on important issues

 

I second thatubertrailblazer01 , 400rider4455 needs to get some facts straight, and to tell you the truth, I don't want to be the one to do it, it always seems that when someone has an opinion or belief, they stick to it, whether their proven wrong or not, 400rider4455 needs to do some REAL research by himself. 400rider4455, in the past week there has been released some classified armed forces only material, well now thats its declassified, everyone can view it, go and research a "General Zinni" you'll find some limks under COD.gov. Gen. Zinni is a man of outstanding character, and has been commentation on this war as a third world bystander, not as a military leader, an American, a Muslim, UN official , or my rottweiler max, but as a professional qualified bystander, so his evidence isn't Bush friendly, Kerry friendly, its clean truth. President Bush isn't as moronic as the media and single minded fanatics make him out to believe, I mean he's the president, not many genius's could pull off a responsability like that, get off the singleminded choo, choo railway and become open to other concepts and ideaologies, and in the end you may still like Kerry, but at least YOU found out why, the media did't tell you.

 

I watched the debate last night as well. And though I still support Bush I have to say that there were a couple of questions about the war for which Bush didn't have much of an answer. I think the reason People like Kerry is because he's telling people a definate time span that we'll be out of Iraq.

Notice I said "people" and not "I".

The problem is both Bush as well as Kerry really do not know how long it will take for us to get out. The difference is that Bush is honest, and won't throw a date out just to make people happy. Kerry, on the other hand is giving dates/time spans because its what the alot of the country wants to hear. He doesn't care if its a realistic goal or not as long as it gets him into office. Personally I think Bush's desire to not make up false time lines is what hurt him last night. Bush knows it will take time to teach this country how to stand on their own two feet, and Kerry doesn't care. He just wants to pull us out because he thinks its a "popular" opinion.

Also although Bush was able to retaliate when Kerry said we had no supporters, he did not have an answer for why so much of OUR troops were there in comparison to the other countrys out there with us. Now it could very well be that they just don't have the troop resources we do, but there was not much of a come back for that question. His response was to criticize Kerry for talking down our allies. I think there should have been a better come back for Bush.

What also hurt Bush was that he didn't have much of a comeback (correct me if I've forgotten his response, I may very well have) for Kerry's comment about Bush taking away money from our police/fire/emt funds to up the money available for the war.

What I did find funny though was that Kerry started out his arguement last night saying that Sadam was not the threat, and that the lack of WMD in Iraq was further evidence of this. But later after W called him out on Kerry looking at the same info as Bush he said Sadam WAS a threat.....? Interesting.....And all though it is starting to escape me as time goes on there were other topics Kerry change his stand point on during the course of the debate. Bush also did a very good job of providing proof that Kerry was making inacurrate statments about spendings for supplies and other topics.

Although it doesn't matter much to me, you do have to admitt also that Kerry IS a better speaker than Bush. Whether hes giving factual information or not is questionable at best, but he is smooth and convincing. For people sitting on the fence that can be very persuading..... For myself personally I am voting for standpoints the President has on tax cuts, marriage morals, and pro-life/stem cell research. Not JUST the war. These(as well as other) topics are also VERY important and should also be the deciding factors behind who is picked for president in November. Unfortunately I think Kerry already knows his most strong foot to stand on and will do his best to keep away from those topics(that Bush is strong in), and keep the focus more on telling all the country how he thinks the President was wrong about the war.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that this is by no means going to be a shoe in. If you believe Bush is the right man for the job(like I do) when November rolls around get out there and VOTE! It is tightening up more and more in the popularity polls.

 

Kerry held a more strait answer & could deliever, but any politician who votes different than he speaks is a crooked liar as kerry is. any president who votes against semi-auto shotguns, hunting caliper rule loads and blamming ammunition manufactuer's for civilian deaths from fire arms, is right up there w/ hitler in my book, as hitler was the first man to say "hand over your guns, and i'll provide you protection", as we all know that turned out very well, GOOD LUCK BUSH. the idea of kerry scares me

 

Go Busch! Hands Down.

 

First let me say thank you to USMCaviator for keeping this country safe and secure.

My vote is for Bush. He is honest and God fearing. He is on the sportsmans side of the gun debates.

Kerry says he is but has always voted against guns and hunting. He is trying to close up hunting areas and i am sure he will try to close up atv recreation areas. He promises a lot but doesnt give any plan or idea how to accomplish his goal. He scares me and wont get my vote!

Steve Lubecki