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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Yeah Sean99TJ I am using a roller fairlead and I think mtpockets is on to something because I have a bad habbit of lifting the blade too high until it stalls out. I try not to, but my coordination sucks I guess. Do you think that's what fray's the cable or is it due to the wire rope rubbing on itself while rolling constantly? The idea of using a u clamp to repair for now is a possability also since it will be down by the hook anyway. I just make sure I have a good cable for summer that's all. Also my winch is the 2500ci. Thanks for your help.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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So sean99tj - does the synthetic have less memory/ need to tangle? I get a lot of backlash on my winch when i roll out more than half - the little backlash guard is too short and the whole spool puffs out, and i have to pull it all out and wind back in. It seems like the synthetic wouldnt do that.

What does it feel like? Does it really feel like rope, or is it like in between?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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should be in warranty but if not a good place to get a new cable is www.rcsoffroad.com they offer replacement parts/accessories for warn products.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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I still don't understand how your cable is fraying....what is it rubbing on....when you are plowing, the cable should be all the way loose, only tension when you pick up the plow....don't plow with tension on the winch cable...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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I'll look at mine in the light tomorrow, but I think it is fraying as it goes through the roller fairlead, and where it rolls onto the drum. I do plow with slack in the line, but i think the constant in and out on that same 10 inches of cable gets it tired fast.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Update. No I don't plow with tension on the cable. Also dealer said no warranty (though they did send me to a cheaper place to get a cable. Dealer said it is common. Everyone with a plow around here having same problem. They said it is because of the sharp bend coming out over the roller fairlead then going straight down to the plow. They said the wire gets crushed at that point, then starts to fray. The guy at the industrial cable supply store showed me the fibre core wire but we figured it would do the same. So I just had him put a new loop on the end for my hook and he give me a u-clamp to fix if it breaks while plowing. It's frayed quite a way up (more than what ever comes out while plowing) so it's pretty much junk. I'll keep patching it for the plow. The guy at the cable shop is looking into getting me the Amsteel Blue synthetic rope. He sells it for the electric utility trucks and tug boats but has never sold the 1/4" so he has to see if he can get it without ordering a 1000 foot roll. My Polaris dealer never heard of it.
Is that rope good. Will it solve my problem? Also will the 1/4" rope lock in the little hole on the spool on my 2500ci? That is the smallest size rope listed in his book.
Thanks again.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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My winch cable has done the exact same thing a few times since owning my Sportsman. The sharp bend from the lifting the plow causes the cable to get crushed and eventually come appart, just like Primus said. I just cut a few feet off my cable when it gets bad enough and use a U-bolt. I place the winch hook off to the side, so I never have to worry about sucking the u-bolt into the fairlede.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Primus - they do make 3/16" amsteel blue for atv winches. Here is a link. And here is a page with some more sizes/information. Does anyone else have experience with this? ANd is it really necessary to get an aluminum hawse fairlead, or will the regular roller work ok?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Primus
Hello everyone. I praised my new Glacier Plow to everyone but have found it's first drawback. I recently noticed my winch cable was starting to fray since I started plowing. I never used my winch before, so it's not like it got week from pulling in the summer. It was starting to fray right on the last roll before it comes out of the roller fairleads, (the part that's always winding and rubbing while pulling the plow up and down) but it didn't look real bad yet. Anyway, I mentioned it to the wife while we were outside. I should have kept my mouth shut cause right as I got back on to put it away the cable snapped and down came the plow. (at least I just finished the driveway) I called my local dealer to get a new cable and they said they get cables made cheaper from a local cable manufacturer so they told me to go there. Anyway my question is I have a Warn 2500 pound and can I go from the stock 3/16" up a size to a 1/4"? Will the bigger cable fit and will it last longer? Anything I can do to prevent this from happening again? I asked the cable shop about going bigger and they were concerned about it being not as flexible and said it may want to keep the coiled shape after being rolled. They also said there is a fibre cored cable they make for grader wing blade lift cables that can take more shock load than the galvinized steel cable. What do you think? I need to go buy tomorrow (going to get a spare made too!).[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Had same problem and found a fix that extends the life of winch cable. Make yourself a rubber ring (using a piece of heavy duty 1/2" rubber matting, or buy a large rubber o-ring) and place it between the cable hook and where hook attaches to plow, this will stretch a bit when you lift your plow too high and won't put as much tension on your cable. Also, every now and then reel the cable out enough so you can coil it properly.
The main reason they fray is too much tension and too much tension when the cable is overlaping itself when not coiled properly.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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Of course, you could always install a kill switch that stops winch reeling in when plow is lifted to max.
 
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