oh yeah, i think just the sled with the 440 motor is good enough, i dont own a sled, but i have a friend who has like 3 Revs and hes gonna start racing next year, i love snowmobiles cept we get about 6inchs of snow a year total, (we used to get more down here but minnesota just sux[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]) When we get snow we get like half a inch so i would never be intrested in having one unless i knew we got at least 3 feet of snow a year. So with me the best buy is a quad or dirtibike, and idk if uve seen my yahoo pics but i got a pretty good one of my arm after my first dirtbike ride, i stayed with my quad lol