if you go way back harley's didn't even have rocker covers . man talk about a mess. the rider had a hand valve he or she had to turn on before starting the motor and then remember to turn off when done so that they oil tank wouln't run out.

 

I am just the opposite I dont like working on the other brands.But if I have too.....................[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]

 

The oil leaking from the primary oiler is not an excuse . It is how it was designed at the time . This was a design from about 60 plus years ago , cars back then had hand cranks too . Just for the record 50 years from now poeple will talk about how bikes and quads had kickstarters !!!

Harley guys out there please chime in on this :

Weren't early Harley Davidson engines actually modified air compressor motors ? I forget exactly how this story goes but I am sure the Harley boys will know the story .

Rick

 

From "The Big Book of Harley Davidson" they made their first engine with a 2 1/8x2 7/8 bore and stroke making it a 25 ci and found it was too small and went back and redesigned it to a larger engine using the same porprotions.
Any of you ever see this book it is well worth reading even if you arent a big Harley fan.It itells of how great the american manufacturing company can be and what almost blows them out of bussiness.

 

Seems to me gunman457, that your intent in the other thread was not to help anyone. Although it was your opinion, your opinion does not agree with most of the other posts about Scramblers. So the readers of that thread should also get the other side of the argument. When you complain about a quad on any forum, just don't expect that others will have the same opinion as you. I have read hundreds of posts of owners that have trashed their quads by modifying them or not taking care of them. Then they come into the forum and complain that there is a problem with the quad. Sorry, but I stand by my posts!!
Bryce

 

I didn't trash my quad doing mod's to it. My Scram is in fine shape. All my HPD part's that you guy's warship so much fell apart on me. I put it back to stock. It run's fine and every thing is in good running order thanks to my good mechanical skill's and mechanical engineering background. Not to mention all the part's I had to put into it from all the years and the miles of wear and tear on it and is still nickel and dimming me. I not trashing the the Scram. It's a good bike for what it is, but it doesn't develop enough power for my liking plus it's weight doesn't help ether. It does have it's design flaws in it like anything else. For starters, If I wanted to go mudding, then I would get a 4 wheel drive utility bike that has wheel height to get threw deep mud, and a low gear for tork. The Scram just doesn't cut it in my book for a mudding bike and the performance (even with the mods) don't cut it ether. So I moved onto something better for my taste. I think it is help for people who feel the same as I do. It's faster, lighter, sportier, and handles better. And like I said in the last post, you can take it or leave it. So if you don't like what I have to say, then leave it, because I'm tired of kicking a dead horse. P.S. If anyone cares, I don't favor any manufacture because they will let you down. Keep a open mind and look for quality and good design.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Now here is the type of statement that is not needed. I don't worship HPD parts. I don't modify my quads, if I want a faster quad, I will just buy a faster one. Seems with a BSME, that obvious fact would have occured to you also instead of trying to hop up a 4 year old Scrambler.
Not sure why you say this. Aren't we all looking for good design and high quality? So the breaking plastic on the Kaw is what you call high quality? So the bending tie rod ends on the 700 is high quality? Do not confuse high speed and high horse power for high quality. From what I have read, the suspension on your Kaw is not up to the performance of the engine. That must be the good design you are refering to.
Now this is just my most humble opinion, so you can take it or leave it. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Bryce

 

Lets put it this way, I can sale my Harley 10 years down the road for the same amount that I gave for it! A Harley is just like a house the price does not drop!


Hey Rick, I like you in all but I would love to see you come around here and put some drip pans under some of these guys bikes.

 

I know Raj ... :-) It's just a joke .

 

Hey BryceGTX, Like I said. I'm not going to kick a dead horse. I can make a list of flaws of the Scram too, but I'm not going sink to your level. You need to go hang with the Honda guys and tell each other how great your quads are.