Ignition Key Fitting Multiple Quads
#12
Originally posted by: SafetySean
Same with the bikes that were parked outside the service department -
Let me know what you think...
Thanks.
Same with the bikes that were parked outside the service department -
Let me know what you think...
Thanks.
#13
I ran into the same thing with Polaris sleds, I've owned a 95 XLT, a 99xc500 and a 00 xc700 and all 3 of them used the same key. But even without a key still too easy to steal
#15
Originally posted by: SafetySean
So what about insurance liabilities if your bike is stolen by someone with a key that just happens to fit? If I am a thief and buy a Polaris bike and realize that it can start up other bikes and I steal it what liability does Polaris have towards the owner of the bike I stole. Not only did Polaris provide me with the key but I paid for the key. Perhaps a slick lawyer could shift the liability for replacement of the stolen bike to Polaris. They do not disclose the fact that this will happen when a person purchases a bike from them. As a consumer I assume that my key fits only my bike and vice-versa for everyone else as well. Polaris doesn't advise me that I need extra protection in order to ensure the safety of my bike from thieves ( not now that a key will ever prevent a real thief from stealing it - but thats not the point here anyway). The funny thing about the three guys in my initial post is that the community they live in is small enough to spitt across - and they ended up with 3 bikes of different years that can be started by either of their keys. Polaris - not good enough!
So what about insurance liabilities if your bike is stolen by someone with a key that just happens to fit? If I am a thief and buy a Polaris bike and realize that it can start up other bikes and I steal it what liability does Polaris have towards the owner of the bike I stole. Not only did Polaris provide me with the key but I paid for the key. Perhaps a slick lawyer could shift the liability for replacement of the stolen bike to Polaris. They do not disclose the fact that this will happen when a person purchases a bike from them. As a consumer I assume that my key fits only my bike and vice-versa for everyone else as well. Polaris doesn't advise me that I need extra protection in order to ensure the safety of my bike from thieves ( not now that a key will ever prevent a real thief from stealing it - but thats not the point here anyway). The funny thing about the three guys in my initial post is that the community they live in is small enough to spitt across - and they ended up with 3 bikes of different years that can be started by either of their keys. Polaris - not good enough!
The problem is that like madmatt1971 said there are only so many combinations to the keys that can be cut.
Yes there are high tech keys that can add piece of mind security but it still boils down to.....
YOU and how you keep your stuff from being stolen.
I am reminded how a drunk ex-army guy broke into a armory and stole a TANK and ran it down the streets in Cali.
Well i think that breaking into and stealing a tank is (or should be) pretty tough.
So when a determined thief looks at you stuff and says .......I really like his stuff and I have to have it.
Its your job to keep him from stealing it.
(my opinion only)
Polaris is not responsible for your loss by the hands of a thief.
Justs as your mortgage company is responsible for your stuff if your house had been broke into.
just my $.02
BGRDTRUK
#16
I am sure they could come up with more than a half dozen key combos.....and the problem is that somebody is gonna get hurt....example maybe little boy climbs on the big quad and his 90cc quad key fits......his eyes light up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
#17
Never thought of that Squeege...good point!
And if a thief wants to steal they are going to do so but it shouldn't be because Polaris gave them the key. Come on the whole idea is for the manufacturers to build some measure of security into what they produce. Use the available technology to improve on what you have Polaris and give the consumer additional security. I don't worry about someone stealing my truck because Ford gave them the key to it...
And if a thief wants to steal they are going to do so but it shouldn't be because Polaris gave them the key. Come on the whole idea is for the manufacturers to build some measure of security into what they produce. Use the available technology to improve on what you have Polaris and give the consumer additional security. I don't worry about someone stealing my truck because Ford gave them the key to it...
#18
If you go to 2-3 dealers(good size ones) i'll bet you can find a truck you can unlock.
Also good point about the kids atv key...but don't they use a totaly diff key set????(might be wrong)
Also good point about the kids atv key...but don't they use a totaly diff key set????(might be wrong)
#19
I'm a locksmith, and from looking at my key to my Magnum 330 Polaris uses 5 pins per side of the key, and a minimum of 4 different pin sizes that could be used in each of those positions. That means there are minimum 1016 different keycodes that could be used (that is a bare minimum. If I had multiple keys to compare side to side I could give a better estimate.). Now for this many people to have friends with keys that will start each others ATV's either Polaris is using universal key cylinders that will accept multiple key codes, or the design of their cylinders is not allowing the pins to fall back into the cylinder and lock it once the key is removed. Since key cylinders are basically a universal design I would tend to rule out the latter. And yes you may be able to find a vehicle of the same make that your key will fit in, but it's not like half of the vehicles at every dealership will start with the same key. That's just rediculous to be ok with the fact that I could walk to your house, start up, and steal your ATV just because I happen have one made by the same company. Chaining it is no big deal either. I have a dremel tool with a cutoff wheel that will go though a 5/16 latch on a masterlock in less than 2 minutes, and not make much noise at all.
#20
i know of a car key that looks nothing like the truck key it fits into and will start as well. i wont say what they are from but these are working in new vehicles so is it a problem with companys cutting corners to save a buck


