You probably talked to the same old crotchety guy that I did, I told him my set up and the question I had. His respose was, "That is an odd setup!" Like it is my fault or something. Anyway I told him, yeah no crap that is why I called you about tech support, because it is an odd setup, and you're directions are not clear for my application! What a moron!

 

I wonder if he owns the place ? He gave me the impression that he did .

 

You guys are talking to Dan and yeah he owns the company. He also tried to tell me not to run any size tire larger than 26".

 

so it seems like this set up form h/c is'nt really good on over size tire applications. that is really the reason i wanted to get one of these but if the owner is not recommending to use his set up w/ anything but stock tires it doesnt seem to me that he wants to stand behind the product in more strained condtions on the oversize tires. just a question i have?

 

I have tried different kits and so far I think the Heel clicker is the best. I pretty sure Heel clicker has a guarantee if your not satisfied send the kit back and he will refund your money. I know he don't recommend bigger tires because they are harder on the clutch vs. smaller tires. But you can also see he does have a setup for bigger tires in his directions, so yes you can use the heel clicker with bigger tires. When I get another Polaris one of the first thing I will do is install a heel clicker in it.

 

I remember now . He said that the goodyear mud runner (stock size) Would out perform any of the large after market tires because , these ATV'S don't have the H.P. to run the larger tires. I told him that my friend has a 600 polaris with 29's & he said he only has 39 H.P. & that tire is too big for his 600. He won a mud bog today with those 29's against a can-am 800 so, looks like they work pretty well to me !

 

This is just my opinion,

The Heel Clicker is the stuff, I've tried the Hotseat on a '01 500, but no fair comparision. This is much more power than the 500. I am not putting down any other product, but I am saying that this has got to be technology at its finest. I don't know if the others are as good, but I can not imagine anything better. This is TOTALLY adjustable. If you want something between the springs that they give you, you can add or remove weights to accomplish about the same thing! The other kits seem to be a guess when it is time to purchase a different spring. At $28 a spring, I hope you get it right the first time. If not, you'll wind up spending more than me and still not having an adjustable clutch!

I have the 1,000 lb MV. I am almost 300 lbs. I have got mine set up so low, that I can EASILY pull the front wheels by just punching the throttle. When I punch t, I do not even have to hit full throttle either. I know this may be hard to believe. I would not steer anyone wrong on purpose! I was at a mud bog against a Grizzly 660, 11:1, big cam, FMF exhaust, 28" Mudzilla's, and remember it is about 300 lbs lighter than mine and he is about 100 lbs lighter than me. My rig totaled about 400 lbs heavier. We went through the same stuff. You can read about it in the "Utlity ATV" section which is here. If you don't want to read all the crap leading up to the duel, you can skip down to read the results beginning on Sun. Nov. 5th. There are 2 testimonials from Him(Yamaha) and a Suzuki rider. Another Suzuki rider had the same things to say, but has never posted it on here!

I would be willing to get the wheelies on video, but it will take a little while. All I can say is, I am glad they come with the 2" reciever. I was using it as a wheelie bar. I'de hate to have it come back over on me(OUCH)!!!!!!

 

The theory behind the h/c setup appears to be solid. Enough people have used it on here and it seems to deliver all round performance for utility quads. My problem is twofold. One, because I have an 800, paying the full price for a kit when I do not use anything but the weights kind of grinds me. They should sell the weights separately for those applications. Second, because of your grooving problem Instigator, I would like to determine whether it is in fact a problem caused by the h/c or something else. I can possibly make the decision on the economics in favor of getting the kit anyway if it is a positive improvement, which in applicable performance seems to be. But I cannot justify overpaying for something that while delivering performance is costing me a clutch replacement. So if possible I would like to know if anyone else with the 800 clutch has experienced the grooving with the h/c like Instigator and Instigator have you determined a cause for the grooving as something other than the h/c?

 

You made me ponder the grooving thing with your RPM questions. I am trying to think....... I had a belt replaced on the 800 before I put in the H/C. Maybe the damage was done then. I could have not seen it, when I put the H/C in because I had no reason to take the clutch apart. When I finally saw the groove, the first thing that I thought of was the directions warning me about this. I will send you a copy of the directions so you can see the inconsistancy of them. They suck! I feel the groove does me no damage. I do notice the EBS is not as strong as stock. I think it can not be strong with the engagement delayed like I have it.

 

When you say your engagement is delayed, what do you mean as in your previous post your actual engagement rpm lowered after you installed the kit. I also notice that your parameters you reported were with a stock spring although you list the h/c orange as in it in your equipment listing area. Has something changed since you posted that? Thanks for offering to forward the inconsistent instructions as I am interested in how they describe this issue. I don't mean to keep bealoring this issue but if this grooving is the by product of the installation I want to know that going in.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]