<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: heller1

You act like your the only one to have a problem. Look, my TPS was out of adjustment from the dealership. I brought it in and they had it for 45 days. 1/6th of my warranty was used up in the shop. Its fixed and I learned to just fix it myself if it breaks. Do you really think Polaris made the TPS sensor? No, they had it manufactured. All manufacturers have problems, sometimes you get a really good one, sometimes not. I know you didnt have many miles, but if your this angry about it breaking, maybe your in the wrong sport.</end quote></div>

What symptoms did you have? why id it take 45 days?

 

my symptoms were a very erratic idle and occasionaly died. It took 45 days because polaris wanted the dealership to change a bunch of stuff first like the tbap sensor, tbap wiring harness,etc.... When I brought it in I told them the TPS needed adjustment but they have to do what Polaris tells them to for it to be covered under warranty. After they replaced all this stuff they then had to order a special tool to adjust the TPS, this was on backorder. I have since learned how to adjust the TPS with a special socket and voltmeter, I can do it in about 15 minutes. If I only knew then what I know now.

 

Here is an update. Thursday 11/29/07. I haven`t had any further respopnse from Polaris as of today. I spent several hours talking to a Tech Rep from M.P.I. in utah. I called them because they provide a realignment service for ECU/ECM`s that reset the operating parameters of machines that use these systems. I explained the problems I was having and asked if, because they have to disassemble these modules,if they could determine what parts or IC`s might be causing the problem/s? He said, let me call someone who has experience with Polaris machines, and in particular the 6X6 model. He later called me back, and said in his conversation with his contact that his contact had listed a number of problems that he had run into. The following were items recommended for checking.
1. TPS connector and the pins in the connector. It seems that on some connectors that not all the wires get crimped in the pins and the wires would work their way out of the pins causing an incomplete connection. That would cause irratic idle, and sometimes cause the engine to shut down. also the pins would sometimes not make good mechanical connection in the connector, also causing erratic engine operation.
2. Fuel pressure problems cause by dirty fuel filters or weak pumps. He told me the pressure parameters, but I didn`t write them down as they are listed in the factory service manual, which I have.
3. T Vamp sensor. specifically the orange wire in the connector that breaks off and causes an open circuit condition. This sensor is also known as the barometic sensor.
4. Bad spark plug boots. ie arcing through the boots to ground causing rough idle and running.
5. ECU programming. it seems that a programming update is available to dealers via the internet.
These conditions and troubleshooting reccommendations were/are specific to the 2006 Ranger 6X6 700 EFI. Also yesterday It came to my attention that the specific ecu, supposedly made by BOSCH (Polaris item # 4011370), was made for and only used on the Ranger 4 wheel and 6 wheeled units for 2006 only. This ECU has not been used before this year, or since, and is not used in any other machine. The ecu/ecm for 2005 and 2007 have completely different part numbers. And as I stated before the 2007 and 2008 ecu/ecm/rectifiers in 500 EFI, 700 EFI,and 800 EFI 4x4 atv`s are being replaced under a factory recall, or so I have been told.
Again, I want ti reitterate that everything I have listed and the problems I`ve talked about are specific to the 2006 Ranger 700 EFI 6x6. It is my understanding that the 500 cc carburated engine and it`s electronis are a dependable combination. The only complaints that I`ve heard about the Ranger 6x6 prior to 2006 was that it was under powered.
I am led to believe that Mountain High Motor Sports 801 565 1300 has an experienced staff that can assist with Polaris ISSUES. The # foe M.P.I. is 888 649 4609. Jill will answer the phone and when she does,ask to speak to Jared. If you have some performance problems that are electronically caused, he may just be able to help.
More to come as it happens. Butch

 

thats good info. thanks for sharing.

 

I had one of these doing the samething found it to be the wiring harness. Also the 500,700, and 800 efi's never had any problems with the ecu or emm it was the 400 and 500 carbed models!

 

Update:
After paying the dealer for 2 hours labor($65 hr), during which they could not determine what or where the problem was, I had them order a new ECU for my machine($275.00 tx included). I then went to work stripping the wiring harness to check for continuity. found 3 wires in the harness that were seperated, including 1 in the connector for the TPS. Before removing the harness I observed the location of the leads coming out of the covers around the harness and determined that the harness was installed in a way that placed the wires in a position that caused them to be pulled apart. Because Polaris told me to go F**k myself, I have decided to cut the leads and add extenders so none of the wiring will be under stress. it appears that what I had been told about the manner of construction of these harnesses was accurate. Ie, the wire used is substandard and the manner of construction was sloppy, where those wire were attached to the metal contacts in the splice connectors. Having the factory manuals allows me to evaluate the wiring architecture so that even if I had to replace every wire I could rewire it to original design.
At this point I`m not finished checking every wire/lead for continuity, but will report at a future date if anything further is found.
It is my intention to repair the wiring and the try to get the machine running using the original ECU if possible.

 

Have followed your problem with interest and am really glad you're making some headway, albeit that it should not be up to you to find and fix the problem. I think that some of the atitude that Polaris and the other Mrgs show is caused by excessive warranty claims by the "knuckle draggers" that show up on the different forums. Good going!

 

I appreciate your response. At this point, and even if I am able to make this machine function as I was told it would, I still do not intend to keep it nor will I ever buy another product made by them. I am in the process of gathering supporting statements from those who can vallidate the timing and types of problems I have experienced and intend to provide our states attorney generals office of consumer affairs with that. Further, I am waiting for a evaluation of the Moss-Magnuson act from an attorney certified to practice in Federal Court. Moss-Magnuson deals with the merchantibility of products sold in inter state commerce.
The last conversation that I had with anyone from Polaris was one where I asked if they would provide me with a name in their legal department. Their response was no&gt; If I wanted to take them to Federal court. then I should mail a copy of the action to them and if they felt like it they would respond. My 12 yaer old said that their attitude and responses thus far are those that would make someone want to toilet paper their corporate offices. My attitude is that I will and will continue to alert anyone and everyone as to their method of doing business and advise them to go shop elsewhere.
For me, I can guarantee you that I will never again buy anything, new or used, that has/had any relationship with Polaris Industries. butch

 

Be careful that your subsquent actions do not have the effect of shooting yourself in the foot.

 

I think you need to find a new dealer. I would not have payed them for two hours service work when they could not tell me what the problem was. That dealer neeeds to get some better trained tech's to work on polaris machines. If the computer gives you a code you follow the flow chart for that code to resolve the problem. If you can wiggle the wire at any given sensor and the engine changes rpm's then you have a wiring contact problem either in the related wiring or inside of the sensor. Do not give up on polaris paying for the repair. If you can find a good dealer, the dealer can usually get some kind of help in paying for the repair. So much of what gets done is on the dealers shoulders.