Help!! Tire installation nightmare!!
#12
I just did the trick with the starting fluid about 3 months ago. I used cheap carb cleaner from Autozone it works well but I suggest having a towel or something to throw over it to put out the fire afterwards, most of all be very careful. Wear saftey glasses.
#14
I hate to say “in the old days” because I am only talking twenty five (25) years ago. I ran a tire-mounting machine and we used what was called a doughnut to help in cases like this. It was a soft rubber mini ring that you soaped up to make slippery and placed on the rim with the tire. You would place the “new tire” on the rim first on the valve side of the rim. Now you place this “doughnut” on the backside of the rim by pulling it onto the rim. This would create a seal. Now keeping in mind you have soaped up all this stuff when you hit the air the tire blows up and the doughnut would be pushed off the rim. Now with that said and done before you ask where do I get a tire doughnut? You don’t have to; I have watched people use a ATV tire tube to do the same thing! Again remember to soap up tire to make slippery and seat it the best you can on the valve side of rim. Now piggyback an ATV tube on the backside and inflate it enough to create a seal. Find a source of rapid inflation (besides our government) and blow up your tire. If you have the tube soaped up it will be forced off the rim as the tire inflates.
This method is not as exciting as the fireball that burns your eyebrows off, but for those of us out there that have ever had a soap bubble in your eye it burns like heck to!
Soaped up = dish soap and water and apply with a old(paint)brush.
Good luck, hope this helps.
Mark
This method is not as exciting as the fireball that burns your eyebrows off, but for those of us out there that have ever had a soap bubble in your eye it burns like heck to!
Soaped up = dish soap and water and apply with a old(paint)brush.
Good luck, hope this helps.
Mark
#15
Here is the easiest and safest way to solve you problem. Simply spray some trim adhesive on the bead of one side of the tire. Then push the sprayed bead on to the rim and keep it there until it dries, usually 2-3 minutes. Now you should be able to seat the opposite bead by pulling it into position while you put air in. If you remove the valve stem core when you put the air in, it will allow alot more air in at a time, aiding in seating the bead. Do not do the throw-a-match-and-go-bang idea unless you want to wear your tire. This is much more dangerous than these guys think. ATV tires are much more likely to explode than a car tire that is steel belted.
#17
Cut some scraps of wood to a length you can just get between the tire beads after spreading them out as far as you can by hand. Use at least 4 or 6 would be better. Leave it this way overnight, or longer. When you pop the wood out, the beads should be far enough apart to catch the beads of the rim. If it is close, a ratchet strap around the outside of the tire, down the center of the tread will help. Just remember to take the strap off as soon as the beads catch.
You can try the 'Ether can and match' technique if you want, but it IS kinda scary.
Try just a little at first, then spray just a little more next time if it doesn't work. This is one situation where more is NOT better!
Good luck.
You can try the 'Ether can and match' technique if you want, but it IS kinda scary.
Try just a little at first, then spray just a little more next time if it doesn't work. This is one situation where more is NOT better!
Good luck.
#18
I'd start with any of the “reshaping” methods mentioned here to get the tires back to being the shape of a tire. If the “exploding tire method” sounds as risky to you as it does to me, and you have a decent sized air compressor, you can try this.
Wal-Mart and others sell air chucks with a built-in clamp that holds it to the tire valve stem. Buy one of these and remove the valve from it so there’s no obstruction to the air flow. Be sure your tires are warm and pliable before mounting. After mounting the tire and applying pressure to its circumference with a strap or rope, remove the valve from the stem and clamp the air chuck onto it. When you’re ready, attach your air line to the air chuck. This will give you the greatest amount of air flow from your compressor increasing your chances to set the bead. You might try to combine this method with some of the other good ideas mentioned here. If this doesn’t work take it to the tire store or use the BOOM method.
Wal-Mart and others sell air chucks with a built-in clamp that holds it to the tire valve stem. Buy one of these and remove the valve from it so there’s no obstruction to the air flow. Be sure your tires are warm and pliable before mounting. After mounting the tire and applying pressure to its circumference with a strap or rope, remove the valve from the stem and clamp the air chuck onto it. When you’re ready, attach your air line to the air chuck. This will give you the greatest amount of air flow from your compressor increasing your chances to set the bead. You might try to combine this method with some of the other good ideas mentioned here. If this doesn’t work take it to the tire store or use the BOOM method.
#19
I can't help but think the Titans [489's I presume] would be better than Wooly Boogers. I'd say send the darn things back or complain or something. Who knows they may even let you keep the "damaged" ones.
As someone who has experienced the raw power of explosions [a failed 4th of July prank using Oxygen and Acetylene] I would highly suggest that NO-ONE EVER try to do what has been referred to as the "BOOM" method. I'm sure that for liability's sake no-one that recommended it was really serious.
and finally if anyone knows where I could get some 10" 489's with some life left in 'em I'd appreciate it.
dave
runnvs1@peoplepc.com
As someone who has experienced the raw power of explosions [a failed 4th of July prank using Oxygen and Acetylene] I would highly suggest that NO-ONE EVER try to do what has been referred to as the "BOOM" method. I'm sure that for liability's sake no-one that recommended it was really serious.
and finally if anyone knows where I could get some 10" 489's with some life left in 'em I'd appreciate it.
dave
runnvs1@peoplepc.com
#20
Okay the tires are installed. Thanks for all the input. We tried the BOOM method but it didn't work. It did, however help warm up the tires. We found something that fit in the rim and held the tire up off the groun. We had on beed half seated and then were able to hold the other down enough to get it started. They look real good, they are a very flat profile tire. If you have never used a Wooly Booger type tire, don't be quick to put them down. They have way more traction than the stock Titans in mud as well as other conditions. They are also stiffer than the soft stock tires, so they don't let your rims get beat up. The Duros are cheaper than the Titans by about $10 as well. They are about 1/2" taller. I can't wait to get them in the River next weekend.


