i have been riding in a real good swamp lately and have been getting stuck in places I don't thing I should be getting stuck. Last night I got suck in a hole that was bad, but I got my front tires out onto good ground and my bike wouldn't pull out. As soon as my buddy put the pull strap on and tightened it up, I drove right out. It seems like I don't have enough weight over the front tires. all he had to do was tighten up the strap and that loaded my suspension and I got traction. I always end up getting stuck and having a good view of the stars. back tires buried front tires out. Any advice?

 

If you have the money, buy new tires. That's what I had to do. I have a pretty bad swamp that separates me from my trail. It's about 80 feet long and now It;s the most fun part of the ride. I bought Interco Swamp Lite tires and they work GREAT. They have awesome traction in my swamp and on the trail. The tires also ride smooth on hard pack and...well, they just do really really good. Other than that advice, try finding a less mucky way around the spots you get stuck.

 

Not sure if the safety conscious would approve but you can kneel on the front rack facing backwards for extra weight up front. Obviously be cautious and don't attempt that if you aren't completely comfortable with doing it. Also easy on the throttle, if the tires are spinning and you a given her hell and she gets traction you are going to be hating life. Half the fun of riding is moving yourself around to get the job done. It's what seperates the ATVs from the UTVs and trucks.

 

Try putting it in LOW range 4x4 BEFORE you even get into the muck, stand up and LEAN OVER THE BARS as far as you can. Well... if you're kissing the the front rack/cargo box, that's a little too far. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Also if you're hauling cargo, rememeber to keep the ATV balanced by having 1/3 of the weight on the front and only 2/3 on the back.

When you feel it starting to lose traction rock it side to side like you're trying to tip it over and shift your weight front and back too. Sometimes one wheel will bite into solid ground. LOW range is almost always better when going through mud. You have a lot of torque in low. That being said you need to give it a lot of gas. SPEED=MOMENTUM. I've gone lots of mud with stock tires no problem as long as it doesn't frame out and leave you hanging. That's when the rocking and tipping side to side and front to back is most likely to pull your fat out of the fryer.

 

thanks I had it in low the whole time. but i couldn't get much speed because this hole is on the other side of a creek crossing.--cross a 40 ft. wide creek bed, get up on shore(about a 4 ft patch of semi-dry land) then the hole. I rocked it like a madman and was up on the bars. After I got stuck i did get on the front rack to try to hold the front down. So basically I need new tires.

 

If you did all that then you really need mud tires. You're one of the few people in the world that do. The biggest so far are 32x10x14 Gorilla Silverbacks, but you need a huge lift kit, a clutck kit, a pipe, and probably spacers too, to run those. Plan on spending thousands of dollars for all the mods. I think you can run 28s without a lift kit. http://www.gorilla-axle.com/in...p?act=viewCat&catId=25

 

Thanks Frank. I am a cheapskate so I think my next move is going to be some mudders up front. My back tires hook pretty good its just that they get no help frome the front. Or I could quit being so cheap and buy some good 27's, a clutch kit, and a jet kit and be done with it. I want to have the best around, but God I hate spending unnecessary cash. So I'll keep talking to yall until in my mind I'm convinced it is necessary. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

You should be able to go 1" taller without a lift or any clutch mods. It's when people start going +2" or taller that I think they run into a noticeable power loss.

 

I am thinking changing the height of the front tires you are changing the ratio between front and rear. That would mean you want to increase the rears height as well.
These popos do have a little bit if difference in Tire soze already fronts being smaller than rears.

Maybe some of the more experienced will chime in on that.

 

Yea I get stuck with my stockers on at my in-laws property. I remember one someone
else posted a short while back defining it as "lune crap" but substitute the watered down
word there, LOL. That is a good depiction of what I believe is the mud content I go thru,
it soupy, buttery mud from marsh. Like quicksand in some ways. I got myself stuck
with boots on and it took me a while to get out. We had to shovel my rear tire out
with the help of my cousin's SP700 pulling me out with a strap.

I really really would like to see how 28" and such BIG MUD tires would do back there.

R'