Theres a dynamic temperature change in the fluid in the block. It takes x amount of time to transfer the heat from the block to the fluid. The hot fluid then proceeds through some sort of heat sink and is returned at a signifigantly cooled rate. The engine can only heat so much water at any given moment. The hotter the motor the faster the heat transfers. The thermostats constantly cycles to optimize the cooling efficiency of the motor. This creates surges in the coolant flow rate.


Don't believe me, open the radiator cap and watch the surges.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Yes if the engine gets too cold the thermostat will close,but this rarely happens.</end quote></div>
It happens all the time and here is how to prove it to "yourself." I say the stat in "normal conditions" is partly closed most of the time.

You already know that your truck quad or whatever stays at a constant temp when up to operating temp. Now just take the stat out. That's it; just take the stat out and do nothing else. Drive the vehicle again. What happens to the temp? Did it go down? Sure did, didn't it. Why is that?

It's because the stat was partially closed under "normal conditions" and when you take it out of the system there is no restriction so the engine cools off. If it was wide open all the time, taking the stat out would do nothing.

The only thing you changed was taking a part restriction out.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>I'm an old Drag Racer from many years ago, and I still get down to Reading to see the big NHRA race in our neighborhood. I get a change to talk to many of the big names. Many of them tell me that Redline works... it will help an engine run cooler. </end quote></div>
I say it works also. Show me where I said different??? If you max out the stat and max out the fan the last thing is a surfactant to get better heat transfer. This will only show up on the gauge when everything is maxed out.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Theres a dynamic temperature change in the fluid in the block. It takes x amount of time to transfer the heat from the block to the fluid. The hot fluid then proceeds through some sort of heat sink and is returned at a signifigantly cooled rate. The engine can only heat so much water at any given moment. The hotter the motor the faster the heat transfers. The thermostats constantly cycles to optimize the cooling efficiency of the motor. This creates surges in the coolant flow rate.
Don't believe me, open the radiator cap and watch the surges. </end quote></div>

Ching, ching, ching, ching, ching..........AGAIN 100% correct!!!!!!!! And said SO much better than me!!!! Well put McDerry!!!

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Doctorturbo

My point is this.

#1 There is no way to tell is a product like water wetter works with a thermostat in the engine. If the stat is set at 180 and you dump in some magical coolant you won't see 160 on the gauge. The stat will just close up some and keep the engine at 180.

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OK... one last comment. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] Anyway, that sounds like you are saying it doesn't work, but maybe I'm mis-reading it.

For the sake of ending this, here's what I'll do. I'll consider what you guys have said, and forget the fact that guys like John Force, Bob Glidden, Warren Johnson and a few others that I've asked claim that it works. Yes, in talking to them they say you won't see the same results in a normal everyday driver as you would a vehicle that is running only water and Water Wetter but you will see if a difference. Not sure how they could make that statement if an engine is always at 180 (or never runs above the "perfect" temperature)

Then, I'll talk to the guy that got me started on Red Line products back in the eighties. He owns a large Automotive warehouse just down the road from me, along with a chain of automotive stores local to our area. Maybe I'll see him in one of the stores. He is quite approachable. If not, hopefully I'll see him next fall down in Reading.

I'll explain your theory that and everyday driver (or ATV) runs at 180 degrees (or the temp set on the thermostat), and that modern day fans are "almost" unneeded except as a "last line of defense". I'll also ask him "again" if he feels that RedLine Water Wetter works.

This guy is extremely knowledgeable on this subject, and if he says you are correct, I will come back and apologize, and will have learned something in the process. However, to be honest, I think it's just going to chuckle and shake his head.

BTW, you may, or may not have heard of him... his name is Joe Amato.

Anyhow, I'm done... hope you enjoyed Thanksgiving.

 

Sorry,apparently you 2 have no clue. This thread has turned into a waste of time.

Good day.