What causes backfiring?
#1
A friend of mine has a 96 Polaris 425 Magnum 4x4 with low miles. There is a backfiring sound when you decelerate rapidly after getting on the gas. Any idea what causes this.
Plugged muffler? Spark plug?
Thanks
Plugged muffler? Spark plug?
Thanks
#2
It could be something as simple as the throttle cable stretching and getting loose. Newer Polaris machines with the wires going into the throttle control have what they call an ETC control. What it does is activate a rev limiter (the newer ones may cut the spark entirely) if for some reason the throttle sticks partially open. Sometimes if the throttle cable stretches enough, it will activate the ETC even if the throttle isn't stuck. Set the cable free play and see if this helps.
Backfiring can also be caused by too rich fuel mix, as well as several other possibilities, but the most common cause for backfiring in a Polaris I found was excess throttle cable slack causing the ETC to activate.
Backfiring can also be caused by too rich fuel mix, as well as several other possibilities, but the most common cause for backfiring in a Polaris I found was excess throttle cable slack causing the ETC to activate.
#5
From my experience, turning the idle screw to fuel-richen the mixture has cured backfiring on deceleration.
Theory; fuel-lean mixtures burn more slowly than fuel-rich mixtures; a lean mixture may be burning at the bottom of the power stroke; when the exhaust valve opens, some burning mixture exits, expanding and causing the "pop" of backfiring.
I'm no authority, sharing my experience and repeating the words of others. Contrary experience/explanation may be just as good.
Diogenes
Theory; fuel-lean mixtures burn more slowly than fuel-rich mixtures; a lean mixture may be burning at the bottom of the power stroke; when the exhaust valve opens, some burning mixture exits, expanding and causing the "pop" of backfiring.
I'm no authority, sharing my experience and repeating the words of others. Contrary experience/explanation may be just as good.
Diogenes
#6
Good points. Anything is possible. But I would still say it’s the unburned fuel entering the exhaust and popping in the muffler. It really shouldn't hurt anything except the pocket book for fuel charges and maybe a fouled plug or two.
#7
Whatever. Just one of the references from the search engine, (Gasoline FAQ's):
"If the mixture is weakened ["leaned"], the flame speed is reduced, consequently less heat is converted to mechanical energy, leaving heat in the cylinder walls and head, potentially inducing knock. It is possible to weaken the mixture sufficiently that the flame is still present when the inlet valve opens again, resulting in backfiring."
Diogenes
"If the mixture is weakened ["leaned"], the flame speed is reduced, consequently less heat is converted to mechanical energy, leaving heat in the cylinder walls and head, potentially inducing knock. It is possible to weaken the mixture sufficiently that the flame is still present when the inlet valve opens again, resulting in backfiring."
Diogenes
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#9
Hiofcer, you make some good points too. Search engineing further, I found some sources suggesting: 1) backfire in intake manifold, too lean; 2) backfire in exhaust system, too rich.
Or, as stated, whatever.
Thanks for an interesting and civil discussion.
Diogenes
Or, as stated, whatever.
Thanks for an interesting and civil discussion.
Diogenes


