Old Trail Boss Hard to Start
#11
So, could I test for this by pouring/spraying premix into the cylinder to manually enrichen the mixture? If such a thing is possible/practical, I'd imagine I have to be careful not to pour too much in there - so as not to risk flooding or worse, right? Can anyone advise as to a safe amount to use (assuming it's not a waste of time, etc.)
wb
wb
#13
So, I guess maybe a similar question about "how much". Is an output pressure of, say, 20 PSI enough, or too much, etc. Thinking that the motor itself doesn't care, but that maybe I could unintentionally pop out crank seal(s) with maybe greater-than 40 PSI (?)
Since it's possible that I might be able to "just do" a full rebuild fairly quickly instead of wasting too much time trying to convince myself it's necessary, I'll ask now whether I need any special tools other than the ones to remove the clutches (both drive and driven).
If it comes down to splitting cases, will a "regular" dirt bike case separator do the trick?
Since it's possible that I might be able to "just do" a full rebuild fairly quickly instead of wasting too much time trying to convince myself it's necessary, I'll ask now whether I need any special tools other than the ones to remove the clutches (both drive and driven).
If it comes down to splitting cases, will a "regular" dirt bike case separator do the trick?
#14
So, I guess maybe a similar question about "how much". Is an output pressure of, say, 20 PSI enough, or too much, etc. Thinking that the motor itself doesn't care, but that maybe I could unintentionally pop out crank seal(s) with maybe greater-than 40 PSI (?)
Since it's possible that I might be able to "just do" a full rebuild fairly quickly instead of wasting too much time trying to convince myself it's necessary, I'll ask now whether I need any special tools other than the ones to remove the clutches (both drive and driven).
If it comes down to splitting cases, will a "regular" dirt bike case separator do the trick?
Since it's possible that I might be able to "just do" a full rebuild fairly quickly instead of wasting too much time trying to convince myself it's necessary, I'll ask now whether I need any special tools other than the ones to remove the clutches (both drive and driven).
If it comes down to splitting cases, will a "regular" dirt bike case separator do the trick?
#18
Small update. Made my own leak-down test setup similar to those described at Pressure Testing - - ATV at Off-Road.com and Leakdown Tester - Banshee HQ Forums.
So far the only leak I can find is with my homemade test equipment (leaking around input valve stem). The standards I've seen published say motor should be able to hold 6 psi for 6 minutes. The leak in my test tool is slow enough to allow pressure to remain for 10-15 seconds. Spraying with soap solution seems to indicate that the crank seals, head gasket and cylinder gasket are at least as air-tight as my testing tool - they even tested fine to 10 psi.
I'm hoping my test gets better or more conlcusive once the Yamabond I've used to patch the leak in the test tool has had a chance to dry (overnight).
So far the only leak I can find is with my homemade test equipment (leaking around input valve stem). The standards I've seen published say motor should be able to hold 6 psi for 6 minutes. The leak in my test tool is slow enough to allow pressure to remain for 10-15 seconds. Spraying with soap solution seems to indicate that the crank seals, head gasket and cylinder gasket are at least as air-tight as my testing tool - they even tested fine to 10 psi.
I'm hoping my test gets better or more conlcusive once the Yamabond I've used to patch the leak in the test tool has had a chance to dry (overnight).
#19
Hi wbeaver
I'm not an expert but go to my ATV Forum posting :
http://forums.atvconnection.com/pola...wont-idle.html
I tried everything to avoid replacing the crank Seals - Just do it, I am amazed at how quick my 86 TB250 starts and Idles after I changed the Crank Seals.
Timmy
I'm not an expert but go to my ATV Forum posting :
http://forums.atvconnection.com/pola...wont-idle.html
I tried everything to avoid replacing the crank Seals - Just do it, I am amazed at how quick my 86 TB250 starts and Idles after I changed the Crank Seals.
Timmy
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