Kukerdan, My family prayers are with you and yours. Your Uncle is truly a national hero, God bless him.
As for nuclear retaliation, you cant use nuke because the radiation will ruin the oil in the ground. This in turn would make the entire middle east as worthless as **** on a bull. So you have to do it the old fashioned way. Bomb the **** out of them, shut off the supply routes, let them starve, then go in and kill every last one of them on CNN live. Just like they did in the gulf war only G.W. needs to let the boys finish the job.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Pudding will know what I mean when I say the native New Zealand Maori word "Utu". Loosly translated means revenge, and death will be involved.

I look forward to riding around the shores of the newly formed "Lake Afghanistan".

 

Slow down here guys! This is a great example of how hatred breeds hatred! War isn't glorious. Its a lot more of the same suffering and destruction. Do you want to lose your families too? Talk of killing your neighbours because they are a different nationality? Come on! Nationalities aren't bad, individuals are. If some white guy is a jerk, does that make all white guys jerks? No way. It is no different. We are all pissed at what happened, and I hope the individuals behind this get punished, but I don't want to see any innocent people suffer for something they were not a part of. Mass retaliation could cause a world war, and if it does, we will all suffer and probably die. There won't be a winner like in the "old days". Many countries have nuclear weapons now (and God knows what else)! Don't condemn whole races because of a small percentage of terrorists. Every country has its share of "bad guys". I hope the States can prove who is behind this and punish the individuals responsible, but killing more innocent people makes you as bad as them and breeds even more hatred. I hope the guy that beat up his neighbour just because he was an Arab goes to jail. You are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. How would he like to be beaten up just because he is white or black, Christian or Jew, Italian or French, big or small---whatever! As far as I know, we don't have a choice where we are born or what colour we are, so we shouldn't be condemned for that! Will this bull ever end??

 

As those animals who celebrated this tragedy demonstrated, there is no shortage of people ready and willing to take the place of the dead terrorists. While war scares the hell out of me, I don't believe there is any other way. To kill only those directly involved seems pointless. We'd only be making room for others to take their place. Retaliation must be severe. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]

 

Yes, It used to be "innocent until proven guilty", but that isn't how it is nowadays. Because it is "guilty until proven innocent" Sad, but true.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]

 

The only people who are protected by "innocent until proven guilty" are American citizens. These muslim bastards aren't American citizens. The only thing they deserve is "shot first(over and over again) and ask questions later! If they survive that, ask the question, then kill'em. Just because they are muslim!

Rick

 

GrizRick, Geeze I'm glad I'm not a Muslim! Their religion doesn't condone what the terrorists did. They don't believe in the same thing. That is just a small group of extreme radicals.

 

The muslum religion doesn't condone voilence, but some extremist factions do. They believe that if they die in a 'war' against their enemies (jihad??), they have a direct trip to heaven. This makes them very hard to stop, as to them, dying for their cause is a reward in itself. I have heard (but can't confirm) that since their beliefs don't allow them to get to heaven if they are 'tainted' with pork, that some anti-terrorist groups get hollow pointed bullets, and fill the hollow with pork, then seal it over with wax. That way anyone shot will not be 'clean' enough to get into heavan. Hey, if it works, I say go for it.

When I first heard of this it was on the radio, and if it would have been either Halloween or April 1st, I would have sworn it couldn't be true. When I finally got to where I could watch the accident, it almost seemed unreal. However, when the people started being shown carrying pictures of loved ones that were unaccounted for, it really hit home. My prayers to all who have lost or are missing loved ones.
My hats off to those who the rescuers who ran in there not knowing how safe it was.
My greatest respect to those who died trying to save others. I don't know anything braver or more selfless.
God help us all
Farmr

 

Today The spotted owl, Second hand smoke, Environmental advocates, Atheists, Democrat, or Republican. It does not matter. Those issues are trivial at best. Those issues are individually selfish.

We are no longer individuals. The effect of the violence unites every vonerable nation and person in our small world.
It is very ovious there are people in all parts of the world who feel the sorrow we have come to know. We must grab hold of what makes a free people. Unite across this country and world to eliminate the thread of people who could find this acceptable or deserving.

We are united as Americans and as a World.

 

Date: 9/11/2001 9:07p.m. An open letter to a terrorist:

Well, you hit the World Trade Center, but you missed America. You hit the Pentagon, but you missed America. You used helpless American bodies, to take out other American bodies, but like a poor marksman, you STILL missed America.

Why? Because of something you guys will never understand. America isn't about a building or two, not about financial centers, not about military centers, America isn't about a place, America isn't even about a bunch of bodies. America is about an IDEA. An idea, that you can go someplace where you can earn as much as you can figure out how to, live for the most part,
like you envisioned living, and pursue Happiness. (No guarantees that you'll reach it, but you can sure try!)

Go ahead and whine your terrorist whine, and chant your terrorist litany:
"If you can not see my point, then feel my pain." This concept is alien to
Americans. We live in a country where we don't have to see your point. But
you're free to have one. We don't have to listen to your speech. But you're free to say one. Don't know where you got the strange idea that everyone has to agree with you. We don't agree with each other in this
country, almost as a matter of pride. We're a collection of guys that don't agree, called States. We united our individual states to protect ourselves from tyranny in the world. Another idea, we made up on the spot. You CAN make it up as you go, when it's your country.

If you're free enough.

Yeah, we're fat, sloppy, easy-going goofs most of the time. That's an unfortunate image to project to the world, but it comes of feeling free and easy about the world you live in. It's unfortunate too, because people
start to forget that when you attack Americans, they tend to fight like a
cornered badger. The first we knew of the War of 1812, was when England burned Washington D.C. to the ground. Didn't turn out like England thought it was going to, and it's not going to turn out like you think, either. Sorry, but you're not the first bully on our shores, just the most recent.


No Marquis of Queensbury rules for Americans, either. We were the FIRST
and so far, only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in anger.
Horrific idea, nowadays? News for you bucko, it was back then too, but we
used it anyway. Only had two of them in the whole world and we used 'em
both. Grandpa Jones worked on the Manhattan Project. Told me once, that
right up until they threw the switch, the physicists were still arguing
over whether the Uranium alone would fission, or whether it would start a
fissioning chain reaction that would eat everything. But they threw the
switch anyway, because we had a War to win. Does that tell you something
about American Resolve?

So who just declared War on us? It would be nice to point to some real estate, like the good old days. Unfortunately, we're probably at war with random camps, in far-flung places. Who think they're safe. Just like the Barbary Pirates did, IIRC. Better start sleeping with one eye open.

There's a spirit that tends to take over people who come to this country,
looking for opportunity, looking for liberty, looking for freedom. Even if
they misuse it. The Marielistas that Castro emptied out of his prisons, were overjoyed to find out how much freedom there was. First thing they did when they hit our shores, was run out and buy guns. The ones that didn't end up dead, ended up in prisons. It was a big PITA then
(especially in south Florida), but you're only the newest PITA, not the first.

You guys seem to be incapable of understanding that we don't live in
America, America lives in US! American Spirit is what it's called. And killing a few thousand of us, or a few million of us, won't change it. Most of the time, it's a pretty happy-go-lucky kind of Spirit. Until we're crossed in a cowardly manner, then it becomes an entirely different kind
of Spirit.

Wait until you see what we do with that Spirit, this time.

Sleep tight, if you can. We're coming.

Charles Brennan

(I thought this was very appropriate . . . Trader Jack)