I AGREE WITH ALL THE OTHERS. SOUNDS LIKE OPERATOR ERROR. I'VE ONLY SMOKED ONE BELT AND THAT WAS FROM POWER BRAKING IT.

 

I have a feeling that he may have a long way "up a hill". I think if you tow something very heavy for a long period the clutches are going to heat up and give you a problem.

Svalbard11 how far are you pulling distance wise? You may have to stop where you can, shift into neutral and rev the engine to get some air into the clutches for cooling. Do you feel a lot of heat coming out of the duct? Just a thought.

 

Guten Tag,Herr(frau?)Svalbard11.Was ist los?

 

This is the description of the whole way up there:

I pick up material at the bottom of the valley, and drive approx. 6 Mls one way.
1 Mile of that is almost flat and paved, 2 Mls are approx 5 - 10 % steepness and still paved. Than another Mile with maybe 20 % steepness on a good pretty gravel-surface and another 2 Mls are steep and very rugged terrain between 20 % and 30% at two short spots maybe +/- 35 % steepness. Its very rugged, over loose rocks (the ATV sometimes throw those rocks underneath the ATV and I can feel and hear taht clearance isnt enough), some are like a small football, often loose and wet gravel between in a size like the gravel which they put under the tracks of railways, and partly wet and slippery soil with small stones between.

At one part, a little creek runs on the "road" so it is always wet at this part. Another little spot, maybe 200 feet long, the steepness is more than 35 % (maybe 45%) so I can only go uphill when speeding infront of that "hill" to the maximum in low and use the accelaration to make it all the way up there. Otherwise no chance. The last part of this section is the hardest one. All wheels are spinning and the ATv digs into deep tracks to make it up there. The last couple a hundred yards is just grass and 5 % steepness, almost flat.

Well, maybe hill is not the right word. Its a small mountain on which I have to go up.

 

hahaha, I know that many of you guys are doing quite well in German. far better than me. I was working in the US for almost 4 years.

I love the West.


"Svalbard" is the Norwegian name of Norways northernmost island "Spitzbergen". Even more north than Prudoe Bay or deadhorse in AK. Northernmost town in the world.

Martin

 

I still am not buying it. I know alot of people including myself that put alot more stress on the PVT than you could possibly put on your in the scenario you have described. Running 28" outlaws in 2 foot deep muck and mud works the bike to the extreme. You are running stock or close to stock tires in an environment that will not allow you to get near the traction as we do in the swamps. Highlifter has been running 28" outlaws on their Big Dog 500 for 2 years now on the original belt. Thay put that thing in mud so thick that the wheels will barly turn at full throttle. That is alot more pressure that you could even think about in the enviroment you have described. And, we work our quads pretty hard in the mountains of Arkansas also. There are some trails there that are very steep and long. So steep you have to keep your weight on the handle bars to keep the front down, and sometimes momentum is needed just to make it. But, even this is not comparable to the stress the PVT undergoes in the mud.

 

Yes, I know that you guys "violate" your ATVs. So I am still wonderimg what I did wrong?

Is it the trailer?

 

I do not think so. If you are positive you were in low and the belt was dry, The next thing to check is the condition of your clutches. If the secondary spring is weak, it will slip. If your rollers in your secodndary are worn, it will slip.

 

Svalbard:
Does your Sportsman 'creep' when in gear? By that I mean, on level ground, with nothing hitched to it, does it try to move forward at all, especially when in Low? If it does, the pulleys are not properly aligned. That will ruin a belt pretty quickly.

I remember another person on the board who had many problems ruining belts. The looked almost shredded. It turns out one of the shims in the pulley (the thin washers between the pulley halves) had broken, and as the belt would ride in the pulley, the broken edge would grab the belt, and chew it up. It was very difficult to find, as when at rest, the shim would pull back into the pulley. It would only stick out & grab the belt when spinning at high speed.

Check your spings and pulley action, as well. Be sure the spring & weights are correct for your elevation. The spring/weights to use vary depending on how high up the mountain you are. Using low-elevation clutch settings high in the mountains can overheat the belt. While you are at it, make sure the pulleys slide smoothly on the bushings where the 2 halves meet.

It sounds to me more like something not working properly, than operator error. When you mention wheels spinning, digging for traction, it sounds like the belt is fully engaged, so if everything is working properly, the belt should go a long time that way, unless you are doing a lot of stop & go type driving. As long as you keep the wheels turning, you shouldn't be overheating the belt.

Farmr

 

Hi farmer.

No, it doesent creep. But what I recognized is that in wether high or low at low speeds (speed like a person walks) the ATV doesent drive smooth. Its hard for me to describe taht because english is not my mothertongue and I am out of practising it. But what I mean is, that I can feel the ATV doesent run smooth in the transmission or engine. It goes fast, slow, fast, slow, fast ,slow, but very very little difference between fast and slow. Know what I mean? You can feel power, less power, power, less power. Think you got what I mean, didnt you? But it seems to me to be a transmission problem, not from the engine. But I have no other ATV around to compare.

And about the misadjustings: Yes, you may be right. I got mine on Sept. 11 2001 and had totally trouble to turn off the 4 WD. I was very often at the dealer to complain, and it turned out to become a never ending story. He just couldnt get it fixed. After fideling around and with advice of a guy from this forum, he could get it fixed. But then, I couldnt engage the 4X4 any more. The guy from this forum gave me another advice which I told my dealer and since then, it works just perfect.

I asume that my dealer is a very rotten and thumb mechanic. I felt that a couple of times now. A month ago, he was welding the towing-bar of an old trailer (lenghten the towing bar to get more weight on the rear-axle of the ATV when loading long boards) which I use for the transport of materiaal to my cabin. After I ve done the trip 3 times (almost empty), the towing.bar broke and the trailer went down the cliffs to the depth of the hell. I couldnt see it anymore, by I could hear it falling and roling down the cliffs. I couldnt find it anymore until yet.

Thank god that at this time of the year no hikers were around!

But I cannot find another dealer in my area. He is the only Polaris dealer within a 200 Mls range.


Martin