Belt at the SP 500 torn after towing a very light trailer uphill!!
#31
Svalbard
I don't know how good of a mechanic you are, but it sounds like you are better than the one at the dealer [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Try removing the belt cover to inspect the belt and pulleys. If you remove the 4 bolts holding down the footrest, you can pull it out away from the machine just enough to wiggle the belt cover out (after removing the bolts that hold it in place, of course). Look carefully at the pulleys, the front one very closely. Are the surfaces where the belt rides up and down smooth, or does it look like there is a groove or notch in it? If your machine has EBS, there is a little pulley with several tiny grooves in it in the center of the big front pulley. Be sure that is not loose side to side. Sometimes if that gets loose or a shim breaks, it will become loose, and then the belt will jump one groove. When at low speeds, this can cause off and on slippage. It is hard to explain, but if you were to be driving a stick-shift truck, and press hard enough on the clutch so it just barely slips, then release the clutch pedal repeatedly. Once you get much past walking speed, the belt rides far enough above the center pulley that the grooves can't grab hold of it.
Also, check or have checked pulley alignment. This is very difficult to do without the proper tools, but very easy to do if you have access to the proper tool. The tool is shaped to fit over the front pulley, and will show if the rear pulley is in alignment. A good mechanic usually will check this when a belt goes bad, but it sounds like yours mighn not be so smart. Good luck, and keep asking questions. Sooner or later someone will give you the right answer.
Farmr
PS Sorry about your trailer. Maybe the devil got it straightened out [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
I don't know how good of a mechanic you are, but it sounds like you are better than the one at the dealer [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Try removing the belt cover to inspect the belt and pulleys. If you remove the 4 bolts holding down the footrest, you can pull it out away from the machine just enough to wiggle the belt cover out (after removing the bolts that hold it in place, of course). Look carefully at the pulleys, the front one very closely. Are the surfaces where the belt rides up and down smooth, or does it look like there is a groove or notch in it? If your machine has EBS, there is a little pulley with several tiny grooves in it in the center of the big front pulley. Be sure that is not loose side to side. Sometimes if that gets loose or a shim breaks, it will become loose, and then the belt will jump one groove. When at low speeds, this can cause off and on slippage. It is hard to explain, but if you were to be driving a stick-shift truck, and press hard enough on the clutch so it just barely slips, then release the clutch pedal repeatedly. Once you get much past walking speed, the belt rides far enough above the center pulley that the grooves can't grab hold of it.
Also, check or have checked pulley alignment. This is very difficult to do without the proper tools, but very easy to do if you have access to the proper tool. The tool is shaped to fit over the front pulley, and will show if the rear pulley is in alignment. A good mechanic usually will check this when a belt goes bad, but it sounds like yours mighn not be so smart. Good luck, and keep asking questions. Sooner or later someone will give you the right answer.
Farmr
PS Sorry about your trailer. Maybe the devil got it straightened out [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#32
I think the railer will come out with the next winter-avalanches. But it was just a 40 year old trailer for 100 Bucks. Maybe the trailer enjoys a good view over the cliffs, who knows ;-)
The mechanic put a new belt on, but he didnt check what you ve mentioned. I will do that as soon I ve got time for that. And in case the new belt tears apart again, it will be good to hang my mechanic a little bit higher.
His problem is that he is a very hectic person. He doesent take time to check things carefully. Sometimes I regret that i didnt buy Bombardier or Arctic. But they do not have any service in a 400 Mls range from here.
Thanks for helping
Martin
The mechanic put a new belt on, but he didnt check what you ve mentioned. I will do that as soon I ve got time for that. And in case the new belt tears apart again, it will be good to hang my mechanic a little bit higher.
His problem is that he is a very hectic person. He doesent take time to check things carefully. Sometimes I regret that i didnt buy Bombardier or Arctic. But they do not have any service in a 400 Mls range from here.
Thanks for helping
Martin
#33
By the way:
I was in Nebraska 2 years ago. I was visiting a little town along the interstate where a guy has a restaurant called Ole`s Big Game. They have an old rustic western-bar in that town with a Polarbear on a table . Very unique and rustic. A place at the *** of the world, but a beautiful and peaceful ***, indeed.
Martin
I was in Nebraska 2 years ago. I was visiting a little town along the interstate where a guy has a restaurant called Ole`s Big Game. They have an old rustic western-bar in that town with a Polarbear on a table . Very unique and rustic. A place at the *** of the world, but a beautiful and peaceful ***, indeed.
Martin
#35
Yes, I ate at Ole's Big Game Resturaunt in Paxton! Good place to eat. Did you notice all the 'girlie' posters along the wall behind the bar on the way to the men's restroom? Kind of by the pool tables?
I live about a 2 or 2 1/2 hour drive from there, East and a little North, just for reference.
Good luck fixing your ATV. I still say something must be out of adjustment. I had 5000 miles on my first belt, and I pull a trailer fairly often. I don't climb any mountains with it, but have pulled over 1000# several times (weight of trailer and cargo). Several times I have been in 4wd, low range, with all 4 tires spinning in grass just to make it up the hill. Something is not right, it is just a matter of trying to find out what.
Farmr
I live about a 2 or 2 1/2 hour drive from there, East and a little North, just for reference.
Good luck fixing your ATV. I still say something must be out of adjustment. I had 5000 miles on my first belt, and I pull a trailer fairly often. I don't climb any mountains with it, but have pulled over 1000# several times (weight of trailer and cargo). Several times I have been in 4wd, low range, with all 4 tires spinning in grass just to make it up the hill. Something is not right, it is just a matter of trying to find out what.
Farmr
#36
Sorry if this was mentioned before, but what is the condition of your trailer? Maybe a bad bearing or something (does the trailer have brakes?) is causing the trailer wheels to not free-spin as well as they should causing drag. That might make it difficult to pull.
Also, is the trailer a single axle trailer or double axle (tandem) trailer? If single, there might be too much tongue weight.
I have pretty much no experience towing a trailer behind an ATV, but these would be some of the first things I would check.
Also, is the trailer a single axle trailer or double axle (tandem) trailer? If single, there might be too much tongue weight.
I have pretty much no experience towing a trailer behind an ATV, but these would be some of the first things I would check.
#38
Oh yes, the name of the town was Paxton. Very beautiful. And I noticed all the posters there, of course, smile. I drove from East to West and I remember some very unique places which you cannot find in that way in Europe. Paxton is very nice. I really love it. And I slept out there in the cornfield. Guys, plerase stop by at this unique restaurant. either the fastfood restaurant close to the Highway or the very old and unique Western Saloon in downtown Paxton. Just great.
Today I ran into the next trouble. I cannot start the engine anymore because the key doesent work anymore. Just very seldom. So it seems I hit another electrical problem and this time i was really at the end of the world. Good to haver my truck in an reachable range. Sometimes I really regret that I have bought Polaris because I spent already more time in the shop than outdoors. Or is it just the problem which became added from the Italian importers to convert the machine to European requirements? Who knows....
Martin
Today I ran into the next trouble. I cannot start the engine anymore because the key doesent work anymore. Just very seldom. So it seems I hit another electrical problem and this time i was really at the end of the world. Good to haver my truck in an reachable range. Sometimes I really regret that I have bought Polaris because I spent already more time in the shop than outdoors. Or is it just the problem which became added from the Italian importers to convert the machine to European requirements? Who knows....
Martin
#39
Yes, there are brakes at the trailer, but the brakes in Europe work different than in the US. No, any problem and the wheels are (were ) running well at the trailer. (I am not sure if there are still wheels on the trailer now after it bumped down the cliffs) . as I told you, I didnt even find it when viewing the mountain with a binocular from the opposite side of the valley. Maybe green leaves hide it.
#40
One thing that can and will smoke your belt is easing on the throttle during high traction conditions. It happened to me with my 98 SP, my rear wheel jammed between 2 tree stumps and when I eased on the throttle I smoked the belt. So to get out of this situation I punched the throttle and out it came, no smoke.
Could this be your situation?
Could this be your situation?


