there fast in there own respect. but i wouldnt compare one to a raptor in drags. ive seen z's get masacured by raps both stock, and for the post, id go with the rappy, everything the z has, but more power. dont worry about it being tippy, and it wont be tippy. most people say it is becuase they go along with the crowd and never rode one, or they have it in there mind so bad that they just think it is when there riding it. i cant even do 2 wheelers on my buddys rap, but i can do it with ease on my zilla. but i wouldnt say either is "tippy"

 

if every1s so worried abour raptor tippyness then why not widen it a few inches[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

The Z handles good but the raptor is not far behind it, it doesn't handle way better, it's jsut a small diference, and the Z will get beat by the raptor period, in a drag, unless the riders are different.

 

If your sole decision of forgetting about the Raptor is because of "tippiness" then you should reconsider. The Raptor is an awesome quad and should not be neglected because it may be tippy. It is by no means a tippy quad. Sure it may be a tad more top heavy than the Z or TRX but we are talking a very miniscule amount. Comparing these machines handling is like comparing apples to apples. We all know that when Yamaha and Suz came out they were basically copying the overall design of the 400ex. Now if you were comparing these bikes to TRX450rs or YFZs...yeah different story. Oh...my two cents...the Raptor will SMOKE the Z and 400EX. Yes I have ridden all three...SMOKE them.

 

Gotta clarify what I mean by "SMOKE" before someone bashes me...I am referring to a DRAG RACE...equal conditions and riders (weight, experience, etc.) I am not talking about an MX track. Ok...just wanted to clear that up.

 

Point well taken!!

 

Not faster than my Z. I have an 05 and with the improvements that Suzuki has made to this model year I can keep up with my buddies Raptor no problem.

 

LOL! Dream on Z boy! The changes they made to the 05s still will never be enough to even come close to matching a Raptor.........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]

 

Now don't start thinks like these because there's suzuki riders out there that will get **** of and bash on the raptor, and start a "my quad is better than yours blah blah blah," every body has their dream and I guess that his, staying close to his friends' rappy.

 

wow, this seems like a real toss up. id say that i will ask for either of them and its just whatver i get, huh? its a xmas present, so i cant be disapointed!