Predator or Raptor 700
#131
Here's a unbiased view. I have 3 friends with pred,660,700. The 660 will just beat the pred. But the 700R will pull away from pred.
I have no info on the 525. Is it faster accelerting ATV out there?
I have no info on the 525. Is it faster accelerting ATV out there?
#132
I chose a predator because I think they make awesome power for a 500. I will buy any brand of atv's as long as it makes good power for its size. I decided there was no chance of me buying a 660 raptor because it is 160 CCs bigger and only makes 41 hp compared to the pred's 48. Even if the raptor 700 can beat the pred, it does not impress me AT ALL, because it's 200 CCs bigger and makes 47 hp compared to the pred's 48, (but might win since it's almost 20 lbs lighter).I say the predator is the way to go.
And PigDog, I raced my buddy's Z400 with my pred and I completely blew it away, a Z400 does not even compare with the predator. He took me off the line for a little bit, only because my tires are bald, once I get my razr's I'll smoke that Z even worse.
And PigDog, I raced my buddy's Z400 with my pred and I completely blew it away, a Z400 does not even compare with the predator. He took me off the line for a little bit, only because my tires are bald, once I get my razr's I'll smoke that Z even worse.
#133
you'll like the preditor over a 660. My family has 660's so I know they don't compair.
I wouldn't get too rapped up in hp figures, as the power delivery is much different between the 500 and the 700. The 500 makes its hp much farther up the rpm chain, which is fine if your racing, but my 700 will pull the front wheels in 3rd at just above an idle, my preditor needs to be at 7,000 rpm to pull the fronts.
I wouldn't get too rapped up in hp figures, as the power delivery is much different between the 500 and the 700. The 500 makes its hp much farther up the rpm chain, which is fine if your racing, but my 700 will pull the front wheels in 3rd at just above an idle, my preditor needs to be at 7,000 rpm to pull the fronts.
#135
Got to give both quads thier due. As far as a drag race it has been settled the 700 wins hands down end of discussion. These predator guys are getting as bad as the 400ex crowd. Add pipe, filter and pc vs pred with similar mods and its still the same. I will say that the pred has far better susp. than the 700. Thats the only thing I would reccomend changing on the 700. The stock susp is way to soft for a larger rider 240+. Some of these Hp # for the preds are missleading, you need to look at the dyno charts for both bikes. The 700 has way more usable HP and Torque than the Pred. Hp peaks mean nothing. Ive seen quads dyno tuned with higher peak Hp lose to lower ones with better usable numbers. If you peak at 45 for instance but until that point your making way less than a quad that peaks at 42 with a broader power band will feed you your lunch. I swapped my alba set up to lrd, dynojet PC, and proflow and the quad made 53 peak hp but the power band is huge. Ive raced piped up preds, kfx700s, yfz450s and 450rs with my fat A$$ on the 700 and the only two that were close were the 450s. The pred is a good quad but not in the same class as the 700 or the 450s as far as power band. I personally like the preds, just not enough quad ther for me, if I couldnt have a 700 or 660 than my vote would be DS650.
#136
Golfljb, Yes, I am sure the raptor does probably have more low end grunt, but you must also keep in mind that the predator is harder to wheelie because of the anti-dive, anti-squat suspension.
I am not so sure about a ds 650 beating a pred, raptor13, they make .3 more HP, but weigh almost 500 lbs!(jeez and people say preds are heavy[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img])
And peak HP does mean a lot because if you drag race,(and I like to a lot) you will have your engine at maximum rpm, where your peak HP is, so it IS going to help to have high peak HP.
I am not so sure about a ds 650 beating a pred, raptor13, they make .3 more HP, but weigh almost 500 lbs!(jeez and people say preds are heavy[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img])
And peak HP does mean a lot because if you drag race,(and I like to a lot) you will have your engine at maximum rpm, where your peak HP is, so it IS going to help to have high peak HP.
#137
With a 225 lbs rider I can run a 8.7 1/8th on a stock 06 predator. My 130 lbs nephew with his piped/jetted 06yfz trade wins with me. His 230lbs dad runs 9.2 and can't touch me on mines. With that being said I have yet to see a stock 700 raptor run a sub let alone an 8.7. I only wish i could race you raptor 13.


