700R all the the way i love mine and u cant go wrong with the power,speed,handling of this thing its like a pimp on wheels. =)

 

I own the 05 pred LE so I may be a little biased but I was at the dealer yesterday and was looking at the raptor 700 (I am a yamaha fan because I own a R1) and it was sitting next to the tld pred. Just by looking at the two its obvious the pred has way more high end features than the raptor. I would chose the pred le for the dunes and it doesnt need any aftermarkets for it besides a drop in filter and some extra disks on the exhaust and your making 42 to 44 rwhp. By the way the Outlaw is nothing like the pred. the only thing it shares is the engine and transmision.

 

I don't see any reason to buy another of what you already have. Why not try out the new Raptor if you are going to buy another quad?

 

In Stock form The Raptor 700 is undisputedly more powerfull and probably handles better, but if you are willing to spend a little cash, and do some research on how to tune the motor, the Predator should easily beat the Raptor 700.

Of course Im a Suzuki man so I would choose a Z400, or Z450 over both of those any day.

 

Z450? Not out yet I assume? Anyway, I totaled my 04 Predator reason Im looking for another. I think out of the box the Predator offers more, suspension especially. I liked the the way the 500 revs, and I am not into a bunch of mods other than a muffler (which I already have from my 04), drop in filter, CDI box mabey. I know the 660 was pretty corked but w/mods could do much better, but as I said wasnt near the bike I thought the pred was out of the box. The 700 seems like a whole new animal vs the 660, just wondering if it is as close or better out of the box than the Pred this time. Not into endless mods. Difficult for me to find a dealer here that will let me ride one, and I dont know anybody who has one yet, so relying on this forum for now. Thanks again for the input. Going to have to decide soon, difficult being w/o a quad for so long.......

 

Pred..

actually i'd rather have the new Z-450 when it comes out

so if the Z-450 was out it'd be

Z-450
Pred
Raptor

 

The Z-450 is surpose to be an awesome race bike. I wonder if it will be better than the YFZ.

 

If the 660r owned the Predator, the 700R is going to tear it up!

 

I am about 99% sure the Z 450 will be better than both the yfz and 450 R. The reason I say that:

The chassis and suspension set up will be miles ahead of the competition, that is a known fact because Doug Gust has already ridden it and says the suspension is better than most high dollar aftermarket suspension, much less the competitions suspension. The A-arms will be wider than what most people bolt on. Basically you will be getting a fully race ready quad off of the show room floor. Although the suspension and chassis is already guarented to be better than a yfz's, or 450 R, there has not yet been any proof of the motor being faster, but I doubt suzuki will let us down. Chances are the Z 450 will dominate in every aspect.

And as proof that I am not just making up a load of bull, every thing I said can be backed by an article in the latest edition of QUAD magizine, Page 24 in the August Premiere Issue, also the July issue of Dirt Wheels has a small article on the Z 450.

 

Thats what its looking like!