Predator or Raptor 700
Nov 28, 2005 | 02:04 AM
#81
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Predator or Raptor 700
Originally posted by: 1bad450r
No I dont think I was reading anything wrong. It is he said/she said BS. Looks to me like the NOS comment is just sarcasm. You do have one point, what I say I did or saw could also be considered he said she said BS. However I find my opinions to be alittle less bias consindering that I dont own either bike and quit frankley wouldnt really consider either one when about to spend 7 or 8 grand. I honestly dont care which bike would win the race, but have to believe what I have seen with my own eyes and have done myself.
Originally posted by: Webopper
Apparently you didn't read the thread, or you and I have a different intrepretation on it. It had some folks on the saying the Raptor should own the Predator, not from any experience, just like you termed, he said/she said BS. The other folks (including the originator of the thread) were talking about how they weren't able to "own" Predators like everyone with no experience has told them they should. They were recommending mods to help beat Preds, including NOS, which is kind of sad when you think about it. Yea, hide the NOS bottle so when you beat him you can be all proud.
Now, when we look at this thread, isn't what you said just he said/she said to everyone else reading it? Who know's what your experiences are and the circumstances around them? Only you do. That's why I tend to lend no credence to what you say you saw, but allot to Raptor owners saying they need NOS to beat a Predator.
Apparently you didn't read the thread, or you and I have a different intrepretation on it. It had some folks on the saying the Raptor should own the Predator, not from any experience, just like you termed, he said/she said BS. The other folks (including the originator of the thread) were talking about how they weren't able to "own" Predators like everyone with no experience has told them they should. They were recommending mods to help beat Preds, including NOS, which is kind of sad when you think about it. Yea, hide the NOS bottle so when you beat him you can be all proud.
Now, when we look at this thread, isn't what you said just he said/she said to everyone else reading it? Who know's what your experiences are and the circumstances around them? Only you do. That's why I tend to lend no credence to what you say you saw, but allot to Raptor owners saying they need NOS to beat a Predator.
Nov 28, 2005 | 02:23 AM
#82
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Originally posted by: Webopper
Your points are well taken. It should also be noted that though I own a Predator, I didn't offer any opinion on who "owns" who. Reason being, I don't have the experiences to back it up. Sounds like, much like you, I'm not going to just throw out there opinion without basing it on some experience. What it really sounds like is that I need to hit the dunes and garner up some of my own experiences. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: 1bad450r
No I dont think I was reading anything wrong. It is he said/she said BS. Looks to me like the NOS comment is just sarcasm. You do have one point, what I say I did or saw could also be considered he said she said BS. However I find my opinions to be alittle less bias consindering that I dont own either bike and quit frankley wouldnt really consider either one when about to spend 7 or 8 grand. I honestly dont care which bike would win the race, but have to believe what I have seen with my own eyes and have done myself.
Originally posted by: Webopper
Apparently you didn't read the thread, or you and I have a different intrepretation on it. It had some folks on the saying the Raptor should own the Predator, not from any experience, just like you termed, he said/she said BS. The other folks (including the originator of the thread) were talking about how they weren't able to "own" Predators like everyone with no experience has told them they should. They were recommending mods to help beat Preds, including NOS, which is kind of sad when you think about it. Yea, hide the NOS bottle so when you beat him you can be all proud.
Now, when we look at this thread, isn't what you said just he said/she said to everyone else reading it? Who know's what your experiences are and the circumstances around them? Only you do. That's why I tend to lend no credence to what you say you saw, but allot to Raptor owners saying they need NOS to beat a Predator.
Apparently you didn't read the thread, or you and I have a different intrepretation on it. It had some folks on the saying the Raptor should own the Predator, not from any experience, just like you termed, he said/she said BS. The other folks (including the originator of the thread) were talking about how they weren't able to "own" Predators like everyone with no experience has told them they should. They were recommending mods to help beat Preds, including NOS, which is kind of sad when you think about it. Yea, hide the NOS bottle so when you beat him you can be all proud.
Now, when we look at this thread, isn't what you said just he said/she said to everyone else reading it? Who know's what your experiences are and the circumstances around them? Only you do. That's why I tend to lend no credence to what you say you saw, but allot to Raptor owners saying they need NOS to beat a Predator.
Nov 28, 2005 | 02:30 AM
#83
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Originally posted by: 1bad450r
Definatly, do you ever hit any of the dunes in cali? I think a bunch of us from this site need to get together one of these weekends and have it out. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] When the day is over maybe we can all kick back and have a few brews.
Definatly, do you ever hit any of the dunes in cali? I think a bunch of us from this site need to get together one of these weekends and have it out. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] When the day is over maybe we can all kick back and have a few brews.
I'm hoping to make it down some time before that, but I'll be damned if I know when right now. Some riding and some beers sounds like a good idea to me...not at the same time of course, but you know...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Nov 28, 2005 | 02:39 AM
#84
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Originally posted by: Webopper
LMAO...that would end all the he said/she said stuff for sure. As a matter of fact, there is a trip planned mid January with a bunch of people from the forums going to either Glamis or Gordons, or even both.
I'm hoping to make it down some time before that, but I'll be damned if I know when right now. Some riding and some beers sounds like a good idea to me...not at the same time of course, but you know...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: 1bad450r
Definatly, do you ever hit any of the dunes in cali? I think a bunch of us from this site need to get together one of these weekends and have it out. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] When the day is over maybe we can all kick back and have a few brews.
Definatly, do you ever hit any of the dunes in cali? I think a bunch of us from this site need to get together one of these weekends and have it out. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] When the day is over maybe we can all kick back and have a few brews.
I'm hoping to make it down some time before that, but I'll be damned if I know when right now. Some riding and some beers sounds like a good idea to me...not at the same time of course, but you know...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
Dec 8, 2005 | 01:05 AM
#85
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Predator or Raptor 700
Hi I just recently bought a Predator. Looked at the Raptor 700,. nice bike for sure but the polaris just has the better suspension and out of the box is better all around. As for top speed a 700 better beat a 500 bike by more than just a quad or two, like they say there is no replacement for displacement! From what I've heard, well lots of different stories, the Predator is just as quick as the 700. Does top speed really matter, not to me it doesn't. Also I was racing my bro's Kfx400 just for giggles and comparison. If I would start out in first, a bitch since so much torque can't keep the front end down so I had to let the clutch out slower and feather the throttle, he would kill me out of the whole but by the end I would blow past him and end up around 6-7 bikes in front. I figured what the hell and launch in second. Man, what a diff! I would take him out of the hole and end up like 8-9 bikes in front. My bro raced a Raptor 660 from a 3rd gear roll and had him beat till 5th were the raptor would pull past him by 2 bikes. My bro's Kfx is jetted with a CAI box and K&n filter and with a full yosh titanium/carbon fiber exhaust. I thought that bike was fast. My bro rode the pred. out back on our homemade track and said that the Predator is just a killer bike compared to the kawi. Although the only thing that I would like to change about the Predator is the rear sprocket maybe take off one tooth. But for the tight woods and trailriding this thing is geared perfect!
With that said I would say to ride a new 06 TLD Predator and a new Raptor 700. Find the bike that suits you the best and that is most comfortable! Hp is not an issue here.
With that said I would say to ride a new 06 TLD Predator and a new Raptor 700. Find the bike that suits you the best and that is most comfortable! Hp is not an issue here.
Dec 8, 2005 | 10:23 AM
#86
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hey webopper
I have a 05 pred TLD I've been looking for an exhaust to put on it and can't really find one.
I have heard that white brothers made one specifically for the pred but i can't find it on the web What is the best one for the pred?
On the subjest of 700 or pred my friend just bought a 700 and we raced they are about equal the first time he had me out of the hole but i took him on top end the second time i tried to get him from the start but she came up on me and he won that one i have riden his and they are a lot a like unlike the 400EX that our other friend has which feels like a little kids toy compared to the 500 and 700.
I have a 05 pred TLD I've been looking for an exhaust to put on it and can't really find one.
I have heard that white brothers made one specifically for the pred but i can't find it on the web What is the best one for the pred?
On the subjest of 700 or pred my friend just bought a 700 and we raced they are about equal the first time he had me out of the hole but i took him on top end the second time i tried to get him from the start but she came up on me and he won that one i have riden his and they are a lot a like unlike the 400EX that our other friend has which feels like a little kids toy compared to the 500 and 700.
Dec 8, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by: MODADDY21
hey webopper
I have a 05 pred TLD I've been looking for an exhaust to put on it and can't really find one.
I have heard that white brothers made one specifically for the pred but i can't find it on the web What is the best one for the pred?
On the subjest of 700 or pred my friend just bought a 700 and we raced they are about equal the first time he had me out of the hole but i took him on top end the second time i tried to get him from the start but she came up on me and he won that one i have riden his and they are a lot a like unlike the 400EX that our other friend has which feels like a little kids toy compared to the 500 and 700.
hey webopper
I have a 05 pred TLD I've been looking for an exhaust to put on it and can't really find one.
I have heard that white brothers made one specifically for the pred but i can't find it on the web What is the best one for the pred?
On the subjest of 700 or pred my friend just bought a 700 and we raced they are about equal the first time he had me out of the hole but i took him on top end the second time i tried to get him from the start but she came up on me and he won that one i have riden his and they are a lot a like unlike the 400EX that our other friend has which feels like a little kids toy compared to the 500 and 700.
Welcome to te forums by the way!!!
Dec 8, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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That link I posted has it. It says for an '03 and '04, but it's wrong. You would think Polaris would have that right??? Anyway, a slip-on pipe will work for any year Pred, that didn't change. If things would of changed, it would of been between '03 and '04. That's why I'm questioning the way they got that set up. Anyway, it will work, I slipped a stock '03 on my '05 LE and it fit fine. Also, you can try Nicholas Cycle or Rath Racing. They focus on Predator performance parts and will have the e-Series also, or at least know where to get it.
Brick and mortar I just mean your local dealership.
Brick and mortar I just mean your local dealership.