2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
#71
03-23-2007 | 03:34 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
Originally posted by: EVMAN
Actually ya i beat the 660 raptor several time no problem also i beat the almost stock banshee just had pipes on it banshee a couple of times in a sand drag banshee definetilly not as fast as the 450's which is what i ride with all the time and i dont know what your talking about not enough power stock has 27 rear horsepower alreaty pleanty of power to do pretty much everything MIne has a cdi rev box 5 horspower gain + 1200rpm dmc comp 4 full exhaust,with end cap off 6-7 horspower.Weight Reductions, fmf power up jets ,uni airfilter, K&N extreme power lid, white brother airbox vents 7 horspower so total of 18 horspower give or take a few added on so 27+18= 45 horsepower give or take a few which the 450r honda is 37 rear horspower stock YFZ 36 rear horspower ad LTR 32 horsepower Banshee stock 37 horspower Stock 660 raptor 35.5 rear horspower. Stock 700 raptor 42 rear horsepower. Even go look them up by yourself if ya dont believe me. SO why dont you go think of some more crap about honda write me back and we will do this all over again. I also see you are brand loyal to yamaha. And that you think honda sucks well why dont ya go look at some videos of the yfz 450 and the honda 450 and tell me the last time yamaha has won against honda in proffesional racing. Never mind ill tell you they have not won any major event since 2004. Hondatook everything until 2006 when ltr came out then that started winning alot of races as well Honda also won baja 1000 i dont think yamaha took 1 race. And the basnshee is a dinasaur has been around to long used to be the best but now 4-strokes have taken over. 450's are the fastest and best race bikes now thats why they dont race the banshee any more ohwel sry ok ttyl byyyyyyyyyy now!
Actually ya i beat the 660 raptor several time no problem also i beat the almost stock banshee just had pipes on it banshee a couple of times in a sand drag banshee definetilly not as fast as the 450's which is what i ride with all the time and i dont know what your talking about not enough power stock has 27 rear horsepower alreaty pleanty of power to do pretty much everything MIne has a cdi rev box 5 horspower gain + 1200rpm dmc comp 4 full exhaust,with end cap off 6-7 horspower.Weight Reductions, fmf power up jets ,uni airfilter, K&N extreme power lid, white brother airbox vents 7 horspower so total of 18 horspower give or take a few added on so 27+18= 45 horsepower give or take a few which the 450r honda is 37 rear horspower stock YFZ 36 rear horspower ad LTR 32 horsepower Banshee stock 37 horspower Stock 660 raptor 35.5 rear horspower. Stock 700 raptor 42 rear horsepower. Even go look them up by yourself if ya dont believe me. SO why dont you go think of some more crap about honda write me back and we will do this all over again. I also see you are brand loyal to yamaha. And that you think honda sucks well why dont ya go look at some videos of the yfz 450 and the honda 450 and tell me the last time yamaha has won against honda in proffesional racing. Never mind ill tell you they have not won any major event since 2004. Hondatook everything until 2006 when ltr came out then that started winning alot of races as well Honda also won baja 1000 i dont think yamaha took 1 race. And the basnshee is a dinasaur has been around to long used to be the best but now 4-strokes have taken over. 450's are the fastest and best race bikes now thats why they dont race the banshee any more ohwel sry ok ttyl byyyyyyyyyy now!
"also i beat the almost stock banshee just had pipes on it banshee a couple of times in a sand drag"
JUST had pipeshuh? do you know what pipes will do to a banshee? they unleash the beast!
"And the banshee is a dinasaur has been around to long used to be the best but now 4-strokes have taken over"
when the shee first came out it dominated the baja 1000 actually. and who cares how long its been out? ill put my 20 year old quad against your '45' HP 400ex anyday. take a guess on who would come out? trails or drag, dont matter to me.
#72
03-23-2007 | 03:47 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
Originally posted by: redhornet
Being fairly new to the sport, and the proud owner of a 07 400ex, I am curious as to why there is so much emphasis on racing and head-to-head speed on these boards. If you want to race back and forth up sand dunes or down a flat drag strip, go buy the fastest quad you can find and you can fluff your tail feathers in everybodies face. Who fricken cares how fast you can go in a straight line?Buy the quad you need for the type of riding you'll do. If you ride trails like me, get a 400ex or a Z400, if you want to race, buy the race ready quads. If you just want to show off, buy the biggest quad you can find, mod the heck out of it and watch your dollars float away with your dragstrip wins.Comparing head to head speed in quads that are designed for different tasks is like comparing an F-150 to a BMW M3.Lets get real people.
Being fairly new to the sport, and the proud owner of a 07 400ex, I am curious as to why there is so much emphasis on racing and head-to-head speed on these boards. If you want to race back and forth up sand dunes or down a flat drag strip, go buy the fastest quad you can find and you can fluff your tail feathers in everybodies face. Who fricken cares how fast you can go in a straight line?Buy the quad you need for the type of riding you'll do. If you ride trails like me, get a 400ex or a Z400, if you want to race, buy the race ready quads. If you just want to show off, buy the biggest quad you can find, mod the heck out of it and watch your dollars float away with your dragstrip wins.Comparing head to head speed in quads that are designed for different tasks is like comparing an F-150 to a BMW M3.Lets get real people.
#73
03-23-2007 | 05:15 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
Well, ****, I might as well trade my Rappy in for a 400 EX if I want beat everyones a$$ in a drag. All I gotta do is get a fancier seat and some chrome lug nuts and I'll get an extra 4 HP. WOO HOO![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
And Redhornet... nobody cares about straight line speed except EVMAN. We're just telling him what's real and what's fantasy.
Originally posted by: garyc660R
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Your just mad because you can't gain 18hp from bolt ons.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
Your just mad because you can't gain 18hp from bolt ons.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]
And Redhornet... nobody cares about straight line speed except EVMAN. We're just telling him what's real and what's fantasy.
#74
03-23-2007 | 08:02 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
straight line speed i do not care about the top speed of my ATV i do not care what it is as long as i can keep up with everyone else which i do not have a problem with, me and my cousin ride almost every day he has the ltr 450 and his quad has never made it up any hill that mine has not. I have made it up hills my first try that took him twice 3 times which says i have pleanty of power. ME and him are always saying whoes the best why is mine good and why his is good. I never said mine was the fastest either i know mine definetily is not the fastest we raced several times i got close a couple of times but his is just to fast. But all i can tell you is when me and him and alot of other people on a variety of quads are riding we are always having to stop and wait for them and most of them have 700 raptors and 450's And dont tell me about I have made it up hils that raptors cannot get up my friend went up it and couldnt get up it so i dont know wut your talking about the raptor is the best impossible to beat. i am simply telling you wut i have beet and what i havent beat. And with the horspower . instead of talking crap why dont you just go look it up it is not hard those facts i put are all acurate you can find them all if you look 5 minutes on the internet if ya just took the time. SO why dont you all go do some reaserch on the 06 400ex look up all the parts and read about them learn about that exact quad and then come back and talk to me when you know what you are talking about
#75
03-23-2007 | 08:15 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
Originally posted by: EVMAN
straight line speed i do not care about the top speed of my ATV i do not care what it is as long as i can keep up with everyone else which i do not have a problem with, me and my cousin ride almost every day he has the ltr 450 and his quad has never made it up any hill that mine has not. I have made it up hills my first try that took him twice 3 times which says i have pleanty of power. ME and him are always saying whoes the best why is mine good and why his is good. I never said mine was the fastest either i know mine definetily is not the fastest we raced several times i got close a couple of times but his is just to fast. But all i can tell you is when me and him and alot of other people on a variety of quads are riding we are always having to stop and wait for them and most of them have 700 raptors and 450's And dont tell me about I have made it up hils that raptors cannot get up my friend went up it and couldnt get up it so i dont know wut your talking about the raptor is the best impossible to beat. i am simply telling you wut i have beet and what i havent beat. And with the horspower . instead of talking crap why dont you just go look it up it is not hard those facts i put are all acurate you can find them all if you look 5 minutes on the internet if ya just took the time. SO why dont you all go do some reaserch on the 06 400ex look up all the parts and read about them learn about that exact quad and then come back and talk to me when you know what you are talking about
straight line speed i do not care about the top speed of my ATV i do not care what it is as long as i can keep up with everyone else which i do not have a problem with, me and my cousin ride almost every day he has the ltr 450 and his quad has never made it up any hill that mine has not. I have made it up hills my first try that took him twice 3 times which says i have pleanty of power. ME and him are always saying whoes the best why is mine good and why his is good. I never said mine was the fastest either i know mine definetily is not the fastest we raced several times i got close a couple of times but his is just to fast. But all i can tell you is when me and him and alot of other people on a variety of quads are riding we are always having to stop and wait for them and most of them have 700 raptors and 450's And dont tell me about I have made it up hils that raptors cannot get up my friend went up it and couldnt get up it so i dont know wut your talking about the raptor is the best impossible to beat. i am simply telling you wut i have beet and what i havent beat. And with the horspower . instead of talking crap why dont you just go look it up it is not hard those facts i put are all acurate you can find them all if you look 5 minutes on the internet if ya just took the time. SO why dont you all go do some reaserch on the 06 400ex look up all the parts and read about them learn about that exact quad and then come back and talk to me when you know what you are talking about
I bought my ex for its reliability and overall ability to handle anything I can throw at it. If I find myself trying to keep up with others, I'll get a faster quad. If you are waiting for people on 400ex's to catch up to you, then they need to find new riding partners.
My whole point is that to argue about who is faster than who when your comparing apples to oranges is school yard stuff.
#76
03-23-2007 | 10:36 PM
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i thought about getting the 450 but i realy liked the reverse and a couple of my friends had the 400 and it is easily campariable when you put mods on it and i wanted a quad that would last forever withought having any problems that was the only reason i did not get a bigger bike so i can put mods on this bike and dont have to worry about it breaking.
#77
03-24-2007 | 01:05 AM
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Evman, again with these antics. What are we to do with you. These raptors and 450s your refering to must have 600 lb riders if your stoppong and waiting on them. If you want and like the 400ex than be our guest but these hp claims sound like something out of a import car mag. Maybe you just have a complex about your quad and feel that you have to build it up. I will give you some advice, the bolt ons that youve done dont add up individually, for instance lets say these are advertised gains from manufactors 7hp pipe, 5 hp filter kit, 3 hp jettting. added together you have an additional 15 hp, but this is not the case. Some boltons negate total effect just as they do in building a car engine. thes mods together would probably net you aroud 9hp. Soooo the bolt ons you have vs the Hp you claim are short of a miracle. I guess my raptor has a net of 32 more hp because i have a pipe, air kit, hot cam, and a power programmer. Just added all the best case numbers from the manufactor. sound about right. Wrong, I can tell you its never been dynoed and certainly doesnt have that kind of HP. Another thing to consider is peak hp numbers can be very deceiving. If you make minimal hp uup to 4500 rpm and then make the magic number fro about 1500 rpm a well tuned, and planned quad identical to yours that makes more usable hp and torque longer than you will crush you and probably have a little less peak HP> Keep riding the Rhonda if you like. For us men will take something with more of the wow factor.
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03-24-2007 | 01:16 AM
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Evman, forgot to comment on your rant about honda being the winningest quad. That is a stupid comparison. Thats like saying an acura won most of the scca races and you bought one and said its faster and better than a Viper. Another point, I raced semi pro in california for 6-7 years back around 90-98. I raced banshees when we were ALOWED to race the 250r. We constantly mopped the floor with them, 2 years later the honda guys cried so much they made us sleeve the banshees down so that they could keep up. Basing your quad purchase on mx racing is fine but keep your comparisons in the same class. 400 ex vs. yfz450----NO 400ex vs. Raptor 660 or 700----------NO 400ex vs 350 raptor or warrior----------maybe. Hondas answer was the 450r, and thats not impressive.
#79
03-24-2007 | 03:47 AM
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ok well either i am an extremely good rider to beat all of these people or i have a good bike or both and yes me and my cousin dust all of these people when we go on trips i think that it is both skill and the bike but i think it is 50/50 all i know is what do you have to compare it to if i can go up every hill i attempt or am just riding with everyone else and i always get ahead i dont like being in the middle i have to be in the very back or front. if i get in front i forget theres people behind me and we are soon split up because i go to fast. Even on fast rides i always stay in the back so that i let everyone else on the 450 banshee and raptors go ahead and then i can catch up fast .so if those quads havent made it up hills that i have when me and my friends ride all time and i have beat them in races before and then you say it is imposible that is not true you need to learn a little more About the new 400ex or if ya live in california come and ride with us and i will show ya what i mean .Anyways i am done talkin about this subject its getting pretty old and boring so lets find somthing else to talk about.Hey do you know if there is a way to put pictures on this i ave some cool PICS. to show of me doin some cool hills that i climb all the time?
#80
03-24-2007 | 01:05 PM
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2007 Honda 400ex vs. rappy 660 05'
Originally posted by: EVMAN
dude are you smoking the 400ex stock top speed is 76mph that is what the manfacture even says it is. And the ds 650 is not better it is a really good dune machine but other then that it takes the rest of that power that it has to pull around its almost 500 pound body. when the 400ex only weighs 378. Also the top speed of the 450er is 83mph out of the box not barely 70mph SRY buddy your wrong.......
dude are you smoking the 400ex stock top speed is 76mph that is what the manfacture even says it is. And the ds 650 is not better it is a really good dune machine but other then that it takes the rest of that power that it has to pull around its almost 500 pound body. when the 400ex only weighs 378. Also the top speed of the 450er is 83mph out of the box not barely 70mph SRY buddy your wrong.......
You are not getting out of this that easy.
You keep saying that you are right and we are a bunch of hemp smoking idiots and we need to look up the facts. I think maybe you should show us these facts. Because we could look for a year and not find facts to back up your statements.
No 400ex is going to hit 76 mph stock. Like everyone has already told you 65-68 stock. And no 450 is going to go 83 mph out of the box. In fact no bike sold today is going to go much over 75 mph stock for liability reasons. Even the 683 cc EFI 700R has a speed limiter that retards the timing to limit it to 74 mph.
You need to pull your head out of the magazines (and other places) and listen to people that know what these quads can do personally and not just read about it.