im looking for a new quad i ride open trails nothing to slow some sand pits and i love opening up everywhere i can looking for power that will pick up the front tires with no problem

does anyone know if eather of these quads has reverse?

 

The DS450 doesn't have reverse, but the KTM does. I'm assuming that you're looking at the DS450 X XC right?

I would take a DS450X XC over a KTM personally, just because I like the Can-Am more. The KTM is a sweet bike, but expensive from what I hear. It does, however, come with just about any aftermarke upgrade that you would ever want. Well the Can-Am does also. So basically they are both pretty equal, if you are actually gonna be racing XC then I would go for the KTM, if not, then I would go with the Can-Am.

 

how are they compared to each other witch one has more top end witch has a better mid range

and are these brands both relaible

 

ds450 topped out according to dirt wheels mag at 77mph and the ktm topped acorrding to dirt wheels topped out at 73mph.Dirt wheels in the shootout of all the 450s said the best was the ktm.

 

Basically what scrambler said should answer the first part of your question... but not too sure about the acceleration times.

I'm not sure about KTM's reliability, but they are a major motocross brand (especially in Australia, they are really popular down there), and since the engine comes' from a bike ( I think), I think that the engine should be really reliable. Can-Am's usually tend to be really reliable, they also come with a FULL 3 year warranty. Our Outlander has been very reliable, no problems at all.

Are you avoiding the YFZ450 and Suzuki LT-R because they are an MX bike? Just wondering. Also, why aren't you considering the Raptor 700? (Sorry if this comes off as offensively, just trying to make some recommendations).....

 

KTM will dominate every thing. The DS might have better top end but the KTM will get there SO much faster. There is no question that the KTM will out perform the DS in just about every type of riding.

 

no im not avouding any other bikes i just like the xc bikes plus most of my friends have thoes bikes and i just want something diffrent thanks for all the help guys

 

Oh alright, cool! Good luck w/ whatever you buy. Be sure to post some pictures once you get it!

 

i prolly wont be getting it right away just bought a car but once i get the money il be shure to post some pics

 

http://www.atvsource.com/artic...8_can_am_ds450_p1.htm


http://www.atvsource.com/artic...50xc_and_525xc_p1.htm


Tough call- I would go for the Can Am just because its quite a bit cheaper than the KTM and sounds every bit as tricked out (X MX version my fave personally).