<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI



Go for the 250 best bang for the buck in Motorsports bar none!</end quote></div>



Sorry to pop your bubble, but if you get ATV Sport mag, in the sept issue a guy named Dave Sulecki got Wiesco, Baldwin Motorsports, PEP, DR.D to build a 300cc Raptor 250. It looks good, but it only makes a little more than 25hp, only as much as a stock 300ex. And with being under powered the 250 doesn't have reverse, which is a must for PredatorBasher in the the tight stuff.</end quote></div>

when u talk this raptor 250 making 25hp and the 300ex making that stock was that on the same dyno back to back or are u just getting the 300ex hp # from what honda tell u it makes?

 

Also, consider that the Raptor 250 is much lighter than the 300EX. That comes out in its favor in power/weight ratio!

This type of quad is ridden by smaller adults and lighter kids. So, an extra 50, 75, or 100 pounds of dead weight on the machine, is a significant factor in how the rider is going to be able to handle the machine!

 

The Raptor 250 is the clear winner. It only weighs in at 320 and like Recon says, it has the best power to weight ratio. Sweet machine from what I hear from my friends that own one.

On a side note, Beastly 3hundo there's no way a 300ex has 25hp stock(it has 17.5hp). A 400ex barely has that. Look it up.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bigned1904

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI







Go for the 250 best bang for the buck in Motorsports bar none!</end quote></div>







Sorry to pop your bubble, but if you get ATV Sport mag, in the sept issue a guy named Dave Sulecki got Wiesco, Baldwin Motorsports, PEP, DR.D to build a 300cc Raptor 250. It looks good, but it only makes a little more than 25hp, only as much as a stock 300ex. And with being under powered the 250 doesn't have reverse, which is a must for PredatorBasher in the the tight stuff.</end quote></div>



when u talk this raptor 250 making 25hp and the 300ex making that stock was that on the same dyno back to back or are u just getting the 300ex hp # from what honda tell u it makes?</end quote></div>

I got it from another dyno test, Atv Sport did a test on the new, redesigned 300ex back in late '06. The Raptor only makes about 18hp from the factory according to Yamaha. The 300ex is only about 60lbs more, so the power/weight ratio would HELP the 300ex.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bigned1904



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo







<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI















Go for the 250 best bang for the buck in Motorsports bar none!</end quote></div>















Sorry to pop your bubble, but if you get ATV Sport mag, in the sept issue a guy named Dave Sulecki got Wiesco, Baldwin Motorsports, PEP, DR.D to build a 300cc Raptor 250. It looks good, but it only makes a little more than 25hp, only as much as a stock 300ex. And with being under powered the 250 doesn't have reverse, which is a must for PredatorBasher in the the tight stuff.</end quote></div>







when u talk this raptor 250 making 25hp and the 300ex making that stock was that on the same dyno back to back or are u just getting the 300ex hp # from what honda tell u it makes?</end quote></div>



I got it from another dyno test, Atv Sport did a test on the new, redesigned 300ex back in late '06. The Raptor only makes about 18hp from the factory according to Yamaha. The 300ex is only about 60lbs more, so the power/weight ratio would HELP the 300ex.</end quote></div>

Well....please explain that one for us........

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: bigned1904



<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Beastly 3hundo







<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DODGE57HEMI















Go for the 250 best bang for the buck in Motorsports bar none!</end quote></div>















Sorry to pop your bubble, but if you get ATV Sport mag, in the sept issue a guy named Dave Sulecki got Wiesco, Baldwin Motorsports, PEP, DR.D to build a 300cc Raptor 250. It looks good, but it only makes a little more than 25hp, only as much as a stock 300ex. And with being under powered the 250 doesn't have reverse, which is a must for PredatorBasher in the the tight stuff.</end quote></div>







when u talk this raptor 250 making 25hp and the 300ex making that stock was that on the same dyno back to back or are u just getting the 300ex hp # from what honda tell u it makes?</end quote></div>



I got it from another dyno test, Atv Sport did a test on the new, redesigned 300ex back in late '06. The Raptor only makes about 18hp from the factory according to Yamaha. The 300ex is only about 60lbs more, so the power/weight ratio would HELP the 300ex.</end quote></div>


well just to let u know no 2 dynos are the same. even the same dyno will read a little different on different days. for excample my quad made 80hp on one dyno and 70 on another. heck if i put it on a dyno like trinitys i bet it would make 85hp

 

Ok, you win, but what about ground clearance, the Raptor only has about 3.5 inches vs. 4.5 inches on the 300. Yamaha even says the Raptor was intended for a MX track, that includes the 19 inch tires vs. 22 inch tires on the 300, (now try to put those on a stock Raptor) overall handling, and ergonomics. I also think the headlight being on the handlebars is a clever design, you light the way you are traveling, like when you're sideways.


With the 300ex being around for so long, Honda has worked all the bugs out of it (except the frequent rear wheel bearings goin out), you never know what might happen with the Raptor. There might be a long term issue we don't even know about yet (example- the '01 Raptor 660s and their trannies goin out), or their might not be anything wrong, just theres the chance with the 250s trannies and all the gear ratios Yamaha had to make. Just look at the first KFX450Rs and how many recalls they had.

 

you can't beat a 300ex, no matter how you beat it ride, or just leave it sit, it's always ready to go

 

Honda 300 ex. spells out Dependability and Reliability. If your coming up from a 90, the 300ex is the best suit. Don't look at the 400, that's a good size quad. And it sounds like you just coming out of the starting gates. Take the 300ex for a couple yrs and get use to it. And then go up from there.

 

the raptor 250 is quicker,nimbler, lighter and smaller. that being said the 300ex has something that never gets old, but some people are ignorant enough to think bah... i dont need it. it has REVERSE. i know that the raptor is light and even the 450's are light. but i know if i got out somewhere and the only way to back up was to Fred Flintstone my *** backwards or get off and push that would get old really quick. the 300ex is a better trail machine just for that simple reason. its not as quick as a 250, but it has a higher top speed. its also been around since the 80's as a 250x which even those anciet quads are still running strong. when my gf was looking into buying a sport quad we looked at a raptor 250 which is what she really wanted, and then went and looked at an 07 300ex, it just fit her so much better and she is only 5'2". any adult riding this quad should stop, and throw it on their back and give it a ride. if you are moving up from a mini quad this might be the one for you. honestly you wont be disappointed with either machine. it just might depend on how often you need to back out of a tricky situation.