Do sport ATVs have winches?

 

Getting stuck here and there on a Unity 4x4 is not the same as not being stuck here and there on a sport ATV.

 

you are right getting stuck on a 4x4 and a sport quad is different. you can get off the sport quad lift the *** end out of the mud, and try again. i know if i didnt have a winch on my rancher i wouldnt be going through half of the stuff i try because once that thing is stuck i cant pick it out of the suctioned mud. im not trying to pick a fight here. there really isnt any comparison between a sport quad and a 4x4. higher end models of both types have gobs of power, but when it comes to getting unstuck USUALLY i would rather get my 400ex un stuck than wrestle with an over weight 4x4. thats all im getting at. also i know that besides mud up to your ears my EX is easier in rough terrain.

 

you can add accessory winches to most if not all sport quads.

 

i ride small trails that arent very wide, have some hills,and very little mud. I have a 300ex, it will climb pretty much any hill and blaze throught the straits fast enough, its fun to have a light agile quad unless u are going through deep mud, there is almost no better feeling than to wheelie past ur buddy on his fat 4x4.

 

No needed....they are half the weight of the average utility so even little girls can lift them out of a hole if they ever get them stuck.

 

Actually, the tactic for riding a sport and utility quad is completely different:

Sport quads take advantage of light weight and momentum to get through terrain. This is a concept that beginners (and beer bellied rednecks!) usually do not understand. Take a look at a buggy. They are all stipped down and every pound of useless weight is removed. You float along on the top of the terrain!

A utility on the other hand, is heavy and has to dig down and grapple for traction. Your big huge truck has to grapple for traction too, becasue it is to heavy to float on top.

Sure, 2wd comes up short in snow and mud, but light weight is an advantage everywhere, except in perhaps some "work quad" applications. Most utility quads these days, are all "feature laden" and needlessly huge and heavy (not unlike many riders)!

For me, I ride the sport quad in the desert where there isn't any snow or mud, and the 4X4 utilities in the mountains (where there is snow, but little mud...thank you God!)....best of both worlds. But, on lots of the nasty climbs I do in the desert, a heavy ute will just dig 4 big holes! The extra weight is a major, sometimes fatal disadvantage! As utes go, I stick with the medium size Ranchers, and avoid all the huge ute machines like a plague. I will never ever ride a utility any place I can ride a sport instead!!!

Now....a light "hybrid" 4wd that takes the best from both the sport and utility sides (the "old" Wolverine concept, but done better), would probably be the ultimate machine for the majority of riders out there!!! But, the Scrambler (hybrid wannabe) guy who rode with me yesterday, still felt like his machine came up short....

 

I hate mud..... I do everything I can to find a way around it. Once in a while a little surface mud is fun to slide around on, but I will never understand the fascination with going into deep mud holes just so I have to get pulled out. I hate getting stuck.

I've seen mud guys take 3 hours to get down a trail that took me 20 minutes because I went around everything and they are going through it and getting stuck every single hole. To each his own but to me that is not fun, that is not "riding" IMO. That is a bad day of riding....lol....

I have a 4x4 but I don't use it for anything but work and building trails. Once the trails are made, the sport machine will always win out for me.

 

To be honest I don't think we will ever see this long wanted "sport" 4x4. It would cost so much money to build, that it would cost 20k off the showroom. It would have to have things like titanium CV joints and super light components in order to keep the weight down. Otherwise it would end up being a typical 600-pound machine as most small 4x4s are.

Even if they could get it down to 500-pounds, it will still be too heavy to be a true sport machine, and it would still be 100-pounds too heavy. I suppose we will see but I just don't see it as something the factories would spend the cash on. I think the Renegade is probably as good as it will get in the near future. Maybe in another 20 years once the price of things like titanium and magnesium and carbon fiber are cheap enough.

 

Once again depending on trails, ground clearance (GC) is a big thing also, we hit rocks and things hard enough against the tough steel skids plates with 10" of GC. 3- 5" of GC and a much more valuable rear chain sprocket would have a short life.