Hi all, I currently have an 03 SE Warrior that I have done a lot of work to:
(work done by F.A.S.T. racing)
bored 2mm over
JE titanium race piston
stage 2 hotcam with springs
P/P head
clutch
Edelbrock carb
Airbox modded with K&N filter
FMF header and muffler
etc

I'm wanting more power, and now realize I should've just sold the warrior instead of sinking money into it Would it be worth it for me to step up to a 400 and pipe/jet it? Or would I be better off to jump to a 700 raptor?

The type of riding I do varies between wide open spaces and tight and technical trails, with some climbing and mud.

Thanks!

 

Heres the ATV HP ratings. The Suzuki 400Z is not on the list but it should have alittle more power then the 400ex and that has almost 10hp over the Warrior stock.

The raptor 700 has much more hp but it will have much more torgue as well. It does not need to screem its guts out to make its power like a 450R would even though they almost have the same hp.

Polaris 850______69.06 hp
Can Am 800 R____67.05 hp (updated 2/13 to 70.5 hp)
AC 1000_________65.84 hp
Can Am 800______61.7 hp
Can Am 650______55.4 hp
Brute 750 Carb____50.1 hp
Brute 750 EFI_____49.8 hp
King Quad 750____49.6 hp
AC Mud Pro_______49.06 hp
King 700_________48.5 hp
Polaris 800_______48.3 hp
Banshee 350______47 hp
Raptor 700_______46.9 hp
Brute 650 I________46.3 hp
Grizzly 700________45.6 hp
Polaris 700_______44.3 hp
Raptor 660_______43.8 hp
Honda 450R______42.6 hp
AC 700 H1_______41.4 hp
AC 700__________41.4 hp
Brute 650 ________41.4 hp (solid axle)
Grizzly 660_______40.9 hp
Can Am 500______40.4 hp
YFZ450R_________39.4
AC 650 H1_______39.3 hp
Rincon 680_______38.5 hp
Grizzly 550________36.9 hp
King 450_________36.7 hp
Rincon 650_______35.5 hp
Honda 400EX_____34.2 hp
Rubicon 500______33.3 hp
Grizzly 600_______32 hp
Wolverine 350_____25 hp
Warrior 350_______24 hp
Rancher 400______23.9 hp
Foreman 450______23.9 hp
Honda 300EX______22.1 hp
Foreman 400______21 hp
Rancher 350_______21 hp
Fourtrax 300______20 hp
Honda 250EX______16.8 hp
Recon 250________15.5 hp

 

I gotta save that HP chart- I'm always looking for it...

get the 700 and be done with it- by the time you finish upgrading your 400- you'll be at the same price for a stock 700 and you'll be happier with the big bore.

 

Sounds like you are experienced, I would also just go for the 700 and be done.

 

Ok, thanks guys. Is the 700 wider than the old 660? I'd like to get into XC woods racing with this new quad.

 

Yes, it is wider. You will be competing against 450s almost exclusively in xc, you may want to look there if you have any ambitions towards racing.

 

can those 450's keep up with the 700? I know the 450's are fast, but we're talking 250cc more (given both riders are experienced)
I'd imagine those 700's are a bit heavier- but with an extra 250cc....

asking cause I honestly don't know- most of my experience is with 4x4 big-bore utilities-

 

Yes, they definitely "keep up," lol. The only problem with the 700 is it is still tall, heavy and bulky compared to a 450. It is not as nimble cutting through tight trees at speed either. Over a 1.5 or 2 hour race, it all adds up, and the Rappy is a bear to manhandle by the end I would imagine. heck, my 450 is really more than I want to deal with usually. I view a 450 as a scalpel, while the 700 is more of a hunting knife. Still capable, but probably not as sharp and definitely not as precise. From GNCC to local races, there may be (1) 700 for every (40-50) 450's.

Don't get me wrong, I have spent enough time on various 700's to know one is welcome in my stable when finances permit. If I am putting a 47" quad through 50" gaps at speed, give me the 450 every time!

 

the 450s are faster than the 700. that HP chart is a tad off

 

yeah some of those numbers are at the wheel, most at the crank.. tlc likes to go by numbers. the reason the 450s run with the 700 is because the 450s are in a higher state of tune from the factory. the 700 is a trail quad but is capable of making more hp with mods then a 450 and a bigger engine usually always has more torque