Agreed. Ridley knows his stuff. But if i got a really really sweeet deal on a good 400ex, i would think about it even knowing I lost reverse and liquid cooling to the Z. It would have to be a GREAT deal saving me alot of $$$$ though. For racing, off the showroom floor- there is no new bike in production better than the YFZ. It's lot easier to buy the YFZ and mod it slightly then to mod the hell out of the others to competition level and spend alot $$$$ doing it.

 

now to give a lil espect to the ex... its a great machine all it lacks is liquid cooling ur in the desert i wouldnt think u would need reverse all that much... the ex in stock trim will lose to a z400 everyone knows that but the ex is a very competitive machine... ive been racing mine for about the past 3 years starting when it was completly stock to right now were ive dumped way to much money into it. its been very reliable even with the 440 kit installed and have hardly had any problems out of it... yeah the technalogy used to make this engine is about 10 years old... so what its still a good machine... in stock form its very competitve agaisnt a z400 the only diffrence is the top speed... buy what you think ud be the best on.. also u mite want to look into buying a predator there fast bikes but could be better without the funky looking plastic.. i can get a brand new predator at the dealer for $5550 compared to a z400, 400ex for $5600 and the new yamaha 450 for around $6900.. the predator is a real good quad for the price and is as race ready as the yfz450

 

Id go with th yfz, even though I love Suzuki, they really rip and that candy apple frame and white plastic looks awsome. Downfalls expensive and no reverse, but they are so light and handle good I think you could donut out of tight spots. The Z400 are a very solid trail quad. Im sorry Honda guys but Ex are dinosaurs lets engineer something new.

 

u obviously dont know that the Z400 is an excellent mx quad as well...

 

Hey Im sorry I offended you, I never said they werent, I just complimented them on being a good trail quad. Some people have to turn every forum into a fistfight. Sorry, to hurt your feelings agin but from what the rumors are the YFZ is gonna tear up on the MX track.

 

true that whole fist fight thing

 

sorry i wasnt tryin to start anything...nuthing wrong with stating ure opinion

 

Cool, the Z and YFZ are gonna be competent MX and trail quads for many years, guess well just have to wait and see you comes out on top. I know one thing it wont be an EX.

 

so basically ure sayin in ure first paragraph that the yfz is the "race ready" quad of the year? excuse me but i believe that no quad is race ready until u put mods on it. the yfz could def use some mods. how come before the yfz was made, there was no such thing as putting too much money into a quad? i personally think that the yfz is just as plain out of the box as the Z, the EX, pred...etc. my point is that u have to put as much mods as u have to on the Z, as the yfz. AND BY THE WAY...THE Z400 IS AN EXCELLENT MX BIKE. i race it myself.

 

and if anything ....the Z has just as much potential as the yfz