I don't know how many times I have to explain to people on here on how to break a motor in RIGHT! I'm not gonna go through it all anymore but ride it like you're gonna ride it after it's broke in. Don't hold it wide open for 3 miles but the harder you run it during break in the better it's gonna run after it's broke in. Professionals use this way for a reason, IT WORKS! Example: Nascar motors. you know how they break them in? Put them on a dyno under a load and spin them up to 8000RPM..... You can't tell me they don't know what they are doing. Heat cycles are garbage that people come up with. waste of time. But I'm not gonna sit here and explain what's right all over again. I've done it about 20 times because people like to argue about this matter. Go argue with a professional engine builder about what's the right way and I'm gonna tell you right now, they arn't gonna tell you to be easy and gentle on your motor during break in..... Quite the opposite. Put it this way, if you break your motor in like a grandma (don't go over half throttle) for 10 hours or some $hit, then you're motor is broke in to run right under half throttle. But then you go take it and start running the $hit out of it after that, and everyone expects it's good to run 'er now.... Think about that, does that make sense? You're motor is broke in to run under half throttle and then you got spinning her past that (after it's broke in) it isn't gonna run like it should. I'm sorry but it's the truth. Now no one is gonna agree with me because "oh it's not right" But that's fine because I rather have the better running motor than the rest. Another example: I have a DS650. Take two brand new DS650's right off the showroom floor. One is broke in hard, run in the upper RPM range and deaccelerated through the gears back and forth through the break in. And the other is run under half throttle and babied through the break in. Now, both these quads are IDENTICAL and broke in, but 2 different ways. I WOULD BET ALL THE MONEY IN CURRENCY IF I COULD that the motor that was broke in MY WAY (the right way) compared to the babied one, would be faster in a race, would dyno higher HP and torque #'s, and in the end run better and last longer.

Now you're all wondering why is my way the right way when all the manufacturers say to be easy on motors during break in. The simple truth is not everyone knows how to break a motor in right, and the manufacturers wanna cover their a$$ if some jerk takes "the right way" into different perspective and decides to run his motor wide open for miles on end and burns it up and trys to sue the manufacturer by saying "oh they stated to break the motor in hard so running it wide open was the hardest I could think of." Ya real bright but MANY MANY people are like that and manufacturers can afford that risk. So they say just be easy on the motor during break in, because YES honestly it will work "ok" but it's not "the best" or anywhere close to it. All they care about is if the motor runs "ok" for an "ok" period of time so they have nothing to do with it if something breaks...... I could go ON AND ON about this subject, but I didn't want to even say half of this so I'm done. Again, don't argue with me behind your keyboard. Go ask a "professional" and I don't mean your nearest frickin Susuki dealer because a REAL PROFESSIONAL forgot more than any of those clowns will ever know........

 

I know i know jeeze didnt you read what I said? Nobody is arguing. I feel the same way and I am in complete agreement with you on the subject. If you baby it around during break in it will want to whine and cry when you go to ride them like they should be. Just like real kids. Tuff love is the answer!!! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

I Have Been Going Half Throttle Or So (30 MPH).. Ill Start Openin Her Up Now.

 

Break it in like you will ride it!!! DON'T hash the thing, but I take them a little easy at first but I mainly break them close the the way I ride them. I have not lost one yet!

 

Hey it's cool. Just that A LOT of people are gonna say I'm full of $hit, when they really have no idea.........

 

pushinit I dont agree with you maybe nascar does what you say nascar is a whole differant game/ different motors built with different tollerances. the whole reason you dont beat the motor is to let the motor wear in properlly and let the rings seat in and let the motor go through heat cycles I garentee your not right about it haveing more power doing it your way. I have built many motors car and atv/ bike and can tell you its not that they are telling you taht to cover there a@@ its because its the right way to do it. secondly its not a great idea to beat the **** out of the motor with all the metal shavings from it breaking in swirling in around in you motor while your holding it wide open. I try to see the logic but I cant im not sold and neither is anyone else I know and heat cycling a motor is importand good luck to you when you dont do it and your piston blows up. When it comes to nascar If I wanted to watck nascar id take my sons matchbox cars and fluss them downd the toilet and watch them spin around.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

i agree my neighbor has a z400 and he beat it from day one and my cousin has a z and broke it in more properly and its night and day difference, the ''babied'' one runs smoother quieter and idles in more of hum instead or a rattle.

 

Look man, I'll say it again I DIDN'T SAY TO HOLD THE F*CKER WIDE OPEN FOR MILES ON END. I'm saying running through the gears till red line or close then deaccelarate through the gears. The first 20min is most important. Look, heatcycles are fine if you believe in it BUT the fact is the metal already inside your motor has already been tempered and heat treated so there is no need in the world for it! The temperatures for heat treating the parts in the motor are way higher than engine temperatures ever get. See the people like you that wanna tell me that I'm wrong have no idea. My Dad is OMC and Mercury certified and he taught me EVERYTHING he knows. I imagine you have no idea what it takes to OMC and Mercury certified, and it's FAR FAR from a walk in the park! My Dad forgot more than people like you will ever know so again you really have no idea what my Dad has experiance with and what he knows. Now I don't like Nascar myself but think of the motors. Sure they are built to the nuts and everything but that doesn't change it from being an internal combustion engine. Now sure things are different and everything BUT you just gotta think of this. To break them motors in they spin them up 8000RPM for a few seconds, slowly slow them down to idle, spin them back up to 8000RPM except for a little longer, slowly slow them back down etc. Now think of that, why would they do that? They do it because during the race they spend the whole time at or above 8000RPM going down the striaght aways then when they're comming into the corner they slow down to a litttle above 6000RPM then back to 8000RPM etc. That continues for the WHOLE race. Now if taking it easy on a motor during break in was actually the correct way of doing things they would have had that motor on the dyno being broke in at no higher than 4000RPM then call it good after 20min.... Look that's not how $hit works, and that's why it's not done! If they did that they would take it out to the track and burn the dam thing up! Same thing goes for indy car motors, to break them in they put them on the dyno under a load and guess what? They spin them up to 18000RPM, and slow them down and right back to 18000RPM. Same thing goes for all race motors except dragster and funny car motors because they only last one race have to be rebuilt, so there is no sense in breaking a motor like that in because it'll wear it out.

Now, using the same theory. You get your quad and break it in under half throttle for how ever many hours before you start spinning some RPM's like all riders will. See how that contradicts the "right" way. I'm a rider that's very agressive and like to run my quad hard (I mean, that's what the dam thing is made for) so I'm not gonna pussyfoot the dam thing to break it in or something WILL go to hell when I start running it hard like it's supposed to AFTER it's broke in. It's simply not gonna handle the added strain AFTER it's broke in the same as a motor that's broke in like you're gonna ride it. So if something is gonna go to hell it's gonna go on the babied broke in motor FIRST! Now if you're a guy that just puts around on their quad then fine, more power to you to put around on it because you're not gonna ride it to it's potential like I do with everything, hence the name PUSHINTHELIMIT. When I ride I don't **** around, I get $hit done like 99% of the sport quad riders and racers in the world. Now if you're gonna tell ME and all these professional racers that thier way is wrong go ahead and make yourself look like an a$$, but I and ESPECIALLY my Dad has the knowledge and experiance to know how $hit works in a motor and how the RIGHT stuff get's done the RIGHT way. And if you're gonna tell me "oh I don't care what they do to Nascar motors cuz It's just different" that will just make you look even more like an a$$ than saying your way is better than the way professionals use because IT'S A MOTOR. All work on the same pricipal so all should use the same theory on what's right. If you wanna continue to argue with "your way is better" You're arguing against 7 years of professional training and experiance that very few people can even handle and pass to be certified, compared to "well that don't sound right so my way is better."

 

chill man and give your keyboard a break. he knows hes right and you know your right its not gonna get anyone anywhere. do it the way you want and whatever you think is the best way. remember its your quad that your riding and that you have to live with so do things the way you want.

 

Just to confuse you a little more, read this............

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm