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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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I was told at one of my race meetings that if you have a look at the front wheels on a quad, you notice that if you put them on one way round (valves facing outwards) they make the front width of the wheels narrow (stock). But if they are turned around making sure the rotational arrow is facing the right way (valves facing inwards) the wheels may extend between 1-2 inces each side.
You can see the difference on my z400 by looking in my profile, picture 3 and 4.
It's not that easy though, if you put them straight on like that, you notice the valves will tap the calipers as they go around. What i have done along with all the other racers in my club, remove the valve caps and place in one or two washers inbetween the wheel and hub untill the valves dont touch the calipers.
The distance between the caliper and vales is about 1mm. I have races 2 race metings with this setup and I have found no problems as non of the other riders have either.
I have to say the handeling is improved dramatically with no side affects.
Have a try and give me your views.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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its gonna put more stress on ur a arms, ball joints, and tie rods...you may not notice it now but im sure u will later on down the road.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Here... this modification if really down to money and time.
To do tis modification all to need is a 17mm socket, a set of washers and, well not much ealse.
The tie rods and ball joints are all fairly cheap to buy. If were talking about the strength of the a-arms, well I'v been hitting some fierce and huge jumps since I'v done this change.
If your looking at doing the job profesionally i.e. buying comptition a-arms, hubs, fixings ect ect, the cost will end up to be in the thousands!!! eheap easy and reliable way of getting better handling
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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LT2Fiddy is right.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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oh...also its gonna mess up the valving on ur shocks. It would be the same as adding extended a arms with stock shocks on...Hey..dont get me wrong i understand completely about how ur on a budget cause i am too. But im just stating that its gonna put pressure on your other parts. I would be careful though...broken ball joints can sure make for a niiiice crash. (i would know)
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by: LT2Fiddy
I would be careful though...broken ball joints can sure make for a niiiice crash. (i would know)
I also know from personal experience that this type of crash really sucks.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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I have done this b4 and I didnt notice any abnormal wear or shock issues. We arent talking about a severe change due to the offset difference. But it does improve the handling and stability, considerably.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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well...like i said...u wont notice it now, it will be more in the long run after things start to wear out. Sam...was it your lower or upper ball joints that went? It was my lower and the wheel fell in when the a - arm dug into the ground. Not a good site to look down and see your wheel almost laying flat and the a arm sitting on the ground. I thought i broke an a arm or something else reallllly expensive.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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My right lower ball joint came out of the spindle while I was riding. The A-arm scraped the ground a little, then caught and it endoed. Not only was the wreck painful but it bent my frame.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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wow...dude that just plain sucks...
 
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