KING QUAD EVALUATION
Nov 11, 2004 | 08:45 AM
#61
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KING QUAD EVALUATION
Originally posted by: Outrage
All this talk about drag racing utility quads is making my head hurt. If you wanted to drag then why not get a sport quad? I live in Alaska and we have "CRAZY" trails! If I even see my spedo nears 30 MPH I'm pushing it for these rough trails. I belong to a club here where we have nearly have 15 riders per trip; all brands and size quads. We don't race or even think or talk about racing...we do however challenge eachother to an ocassional mud pit. This brings me to my second statement; how much power do you really need? I ride with many who have these big 700 hp beasts and I can honestly say most of the 300 hp machines can go just about everywhere they can. I think it comes down to the rider on most stuff.
Is the KQ really that slow off the start? I ride a Vinson and I can honestly say that I can keep up with the 700 HP machines for the most part. And for the "Gnarly" stuff I have NEVER been left behind by a big 700 quad!
I was at the dealer today because I need another quad. Should I get the Eiger for my wife and keep the Vinson for me or get the KQ for me and give the Vinson to my wife. I want the EFI and the IRS sounds like it's pretty good on the KQ but the price is a little off putting. I know it's the cheapest 700 out there but by the time I get Mudlites and a winch I'm looking at by $$$$.
Just my 2 cents.
All this talk about drag racing utility quads is making my head hurt. If you wanted to drag then why not get a sport quad? I live in Alaska and we have "CRAZY" trails! If I even see my spedo nears 30 MPH I'm pushing it for these rough trails. I belong to a club here where we have nearly have 15 riders per trip; all brands and size quads. We don't race or even think or talk about racing...we do however challenge eachother to an ocassional mud pit. This brings me to my second statement; how much power do you really need? I ride with many who have these big 700 hp beasts and I can honestly say most of the 300 hp machines can go just about everywhere they can. I think it comes down to the rider on most stuff.
Is the KQ really that slow off the start? I ride a Vinson and I can honestly say that I can keep up with the 700 HP machines for the most part. And for the "Gnarly" stuff I have NEVER been left behind by a big 700 quad!
I was at the dealer today because I need another quad. Should I get the Eiger for my wife and keep the Vinson for me or get the KQ for me and give the Vinson to my wife. I want the EFI and the IRS sounds like it's pretty good on the KQ but the price is a little off putting. I know it's the cheapest 700 out there but by the time I get Mudlites and a winch I'm looking at by $$$$.
Just my 2 cents.
go ahead and get the KQ for yourself and pass down the vinson. I suspect we ride on similar trails. You will love the way it handles and power is actually pretty impressive. IRS is easy on the back after a rocky ride. For the money you get a lot of features as compared to the Eiger which is also an excellent Quad.
Nov 11, 2004 | 05:21 PM
#62
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KING QUAD EVALUATION
I noticed you have both a 400 Suzuki and Honda. What is up with that? Out of all the many many riders I ride with only one has a Honda and they seem underpowered and way to low to the ground.
I still may get a 400cc machine so I'm trying to think what would be best.
I still may get a 400cc machine so I'm trying to think what would be best.
Nov 11, 2004 | 08:42 PM
#63
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I recently sold the Honda. Friends used to joke that it was a generater.... really underpowered bike and lacking features of a good trail utility quad. No ground clearance, no low range, etc. We kept the Eiger for the wife.
If I were getting a 400 class machine I would choose the Yamaha 450. It has the IRS, great motor, performs really well on the trails and is super relaible. Nothing wrong with the Eiger though.
If I were getting a 400 class machine I would choose the Yamaha 450. It has the IRS, great motor, performs really well on the trails and is super relaible. Nothing wrong with the Eiger though.
Nov 22, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by: Sullivad
Outrage
go ahead and get the KQ for yourself and pass down the vinson. I suspect we ride on similar trails. You will love the way it handles and power is actually pretty impressive. IRS is easy on the back after a rocky ride. For the money you get a lot of features as compared to the Eiger which is also an excellent Quad.
Originally posted by: Outrage
All this talk about drag racing utility quads is making my head hurt. If you wanted to drag then why not get a sport quad? I live in Alaska and we have "CRAZY" trails! If I even see my spedo nears 30 MPH I'm pushing it for these rough trails. I belong to a club here where we have nearly have 15 riders per trip; all brands and size quads. We don't race or even think or talk about racing...we do however challenge eachother to an ocassional mud pit. This brings me to my second statement; how much power do you really need? I ride with many who have these big 700 hp beasts and I can honestly say most of the 300 hp machines can go just about everywhere they can. I think it comes down to the rider on most stuff.
Is the KQ really that slow off the start? I ride a Vinson and I can honestly say that I can keep up with the 700 HP machines for the most part. And for the "Gnarly" stuff I have NEVER been left behind by a big 700 quad!
I was at the dealer today because I need another quad. Should I get the Eiger for my wife and keep the Vinson for me or get the KQ for me and give the Vinson to my wife. I want the EFI and the IRS sounds like it's pretty good on the KQ but the price is a little off putting. I know it's the cheapest 700 out there but by the time I get Mudlites and a winch I'm looking at by $$$$.
Just my 2 cents.
All this talk about drag racing utility quads is making my head hurt. If you wanted to drag then why not get a sport quad? I live in Alaska and we have "CRAZY" trails! If I even see my spedo nears 30 MPH I'm pushing it for these rough trails. I belong to a club here where we have nearly have 15 riders per trip; all brands and size quads. We don't race or even think or talk about racing...we do however challenge eachother to an ocassional mud pit. This brings me to my second statement; how much power do you really need? I ride with many who have these big 700 hp beasts and I can honestly say most of the 300 hp machines can go just about everywhere they can. I think it comes down to the rider on most stuff.
Is the KQ really that slow off the start? I ride a Vinson and I can honestly say that I can keep up with the 700 HP machines for the most part. And for the "Gnarly" stuff I have NEVER been left behind by a big 700 quad!
I was at the dealer today because I need another quad. Should I get the Eiger for my wife and keep the Vinson for me or get the KQ for me and give the Vinson to my wife. I want the EFI and the IRS sounds like it's pretty good on the KQ but the price is a little off putting. I know it's the cheapest 700 out there but by the time I get Mudlites and a winch I'm looking at by $$$$.
Just my 2 cents.
go ahead and get the KQ for yourself and pass down the vinson. I suspect we ride on similar trails. You will love the way it handles and power is actually pretty impressive. IRS is easy on the back after a rocky ride. For the money you get a lot of features as compared to the Eiger which is also an excellent Quad.
She would probably be upset if you gave her a litlle ol' 400!
BigDozer66
Nov 22, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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in the 400-500 class. the only people to say the best one is something besides the outlander has never rode one. I have and it will run circles around all others. in all areas.not trying to start a fight just want people to get what they want. dont test ride one unless you are ready to buy or you will be sorry.
Nov 22, 2004 | 08:06 PM
#70
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EIGER/VINSON/OUTLANDER?
I am a sales manager at the largest BRP dealerships in the Northeast. In 2002 we also received the Dealership of the Year award for Outstanding Merchandising from Suzuki. So I hope that you can see that my credentials are somewhat good.
The Outlander is no Vinson. Hands down you cannot compare the two. I bought a Vinson for myself because the Outlander was outperformed in every test I did with it. On our motocross track to the rocky, muddy trails of northern N.H., the Vinson was the clear pick. The Outlander is no doubt a capable machine with a very comfy feel, but Bombardier needs to step up there acceleration and braking ability as well as its body roll characteristics. We have also never had one machine in for service, EVER. They always come back broken. I know, rider error right? Wrong, it is the defects in manufacturing that plague these machines. Now, would I give up the Outlander line of machines, heck no. They are by far the most popular sub 700cc machine anyone sells and they make us alot of money. 1st timers really like the ergonomics and comfort of this machine.
Eiger. Great machine. In fact, it is always atvtv.com favorite 400cc machine as well as the Vinson being the favorite 500cc machine. Go to there website and see for yourself how they pick the Outy apart, and they are right. You cannot get any more bang for the buck then an Eiger. We race them side by side (for you drag racers...lol), we race them on our race track and through the twistys through the woods. The Outy just does not have the bag to hang with the Eiger once clutch engagement happens, they are pretty equal off the line. Oh yeah, the Outy just feels plain cheap compared to the Japanese based company. The Outy could definently use some refinement, and once this happens, it will hold the top spot. Until then though, they have some quirks to work out, things that Suzuki has been working out for 20 years. That is a huge head start!
Oh yeah, for you KQ guys complaining about acceleration off the line. It is a problem. I called Suzuki's tech dept and asked them why I have KQ on the floor that will rip your arms off and flip you backwards and why the KQ right next to it will barely lift the front wheels.....They told me TBD. Can't say there is a legit issue, but I know the difference.. You aren't dreaming this stuff up.
Sorry for the book.
DAVID
I am a sales manager at the largest BRP dealerships in the Northeast. In 2002 we also received the Dealership of the Year award for Outstanding Merchandising from Suzuki. So I hope that you can see that my credentials are somewhat good.
The Outlander is no Vinson. Hands down you cannot compare the two. I bought a Vinson for myself because the Outlander was outperformed in every test I did with it. On our motocross track to the rocky, muddy trails of northern N.H., the Vinson was the clear pick. The Outlander is no doubt a capable machine with a very comfy feel, but Bombardier needs to step up there acceleration and braking ability as well as its body roll characteristics. We have also never had one machine in for service, EVER. They always come back broken. I know, rider error right? Wrong, it is the defects in manufacturing that plague these machines. Now, would I give up the Outlander line of machines, heck no. They are by far the most popular sub 700cc machine anyone sells and they make us alot of money. 1st timers really like the ergonomics and comfort of this machine.
Eiger. Great machine. In fact, it is always atvtv.com favorite 400cc machine as well as the Vinson being the favorite 500cc machine. Go to there website and see for yourself how they pick the Outy apart, and they are right. You cannot get any more bang for the buck then an Eiger. We race them side by side (for you drag racers...lol), we race them on our race track and through the twistys through the woods. The Outy just does not have the bag to hang with the Eiger once clutch engagement happens, they are pretty equal off the line. Oh yeah, the Outy just feels plain cheap compared to the Japanese based company. The Outy could definently use some refinement, and once this happens, it will hold the top spot. Until then though, they have some quirks to work out, things that Suzuki has been working out for 20 years. That is a huge head start!
Oh yeah, for you KQ guys complaining about acceleration off the line. It is a problem. I called Suzuki's tech dept and asked them why I have KQ on the floor that will rip your arms off and flip you backwards and why the KQ right next to it will barely lift the front wheels.....They told me TBD. Can't say there is a legit issue, but I know the difference.. You aren't dreaming this stuff up.
Sorry for the book.
DAVID
