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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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Default 27 swamplites on a 700 king quad???

Anyone know if they will fit w/o having to buy rims or any lift kits?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Default 27 swamplites on a 700 king quad???

You can basically put any tire on stock rims. Some will just look like a flatter profile others will look more like a crown profile. On narrow wheels you will just have more tire outside of the rim edge and look more crown on the profile, but will aid in protecting the rim from rocks.
You should not need a lift kit with the KQ, but I don't know that for sure. I am almost possitive I have seen KQ with 27" and I don't think he had a lift kit. If you do then maybe just a set of 'High lifter' springs with do it for you - they claim 1 to 2" in more ground clearance. Here is a link for that - http://www.atvoutfitters.net/lift_springs.htm

The 700 will have plenty of power to turn the tires but just remember you are changing the gear ratio and what used to be second gear is now low gear. You won't have the low-low any longer. Which is handy for towing and slow articulate stuff. For illustration and example purposes and taking it to extreme unrealistic - it is like loosing low-range. Not that drastic but it does make your gearing quite a bit taller.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Default 27 swamplites on a 700 king quad???

That's pretty informative. I think the issue is where the front of the back tire meets the back of the footrest. Small rims (ie stock) would make the tire balloon out more and be taller; and therefore, more likely to rub. I've seen many kings with 27's on the net, but no way to tell if they have a lift kit. Many of them are on new rims too.

If not for the footrest, 30+ tires could probably work w/o a lift kit.

Torque is not going to be a problem... There is a tweak to gear it down about 7% by adding a couple washers in the cvt. Plus, its getting a new vdi that's suppose to give it another 20% power across the curve (or something like that).

If my logic is close... If the quad could drive straight up a wall, it would take 900ft-lbs to get it started going up (600lbs or so + rider n stuff and 1 foot radius tire). Therefore, going to a 13 inch radius tire (ie a 27 inch real-world radius) would require 75ft-lbs extra torque to get started. Going straight up a wall being worst case, I think an additional <75ft-lbs is well within the capabilities of this quad. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Default 27 swamplites on a 700 king quad???

If I did my math right I believe it would take 66.66ft-lbs extra - lol... That is if the tires are exactly 27", Using the 13" diameter it is 69.23ft-lbs - lol
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Default 27 swamplites on a 700 king quad???

Well, I didn't put a lot of thought into it,,, I was just assuming everything is proportional.... 900/1 = X/1.083333 X=975 (1.083333 = 13/12)

I'm guessing the 27's are actually 26's because the 25's on there now are actually 24's. And I have a set of 25 swamplites on a bayou that actually measure 24. They don't go to 25 until I put in over 10psi.

If for some reason they actually turned out to be 27's.... 900/1 = X/1.125 X=1012.5 or an extra 112.5ft-lbs. (1.125 = 13.5/12)

I could be wrong.... I once measured a 2 car garage as 6000 ft2, lol. I'm not doing very well living it down either.[img]i/expressions/beer.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
 
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