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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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I recently acquired an 86' LT230S which was in rough shape. It was ticking loudly. A friend of mine helped me install a new oil pump.. it had been running dry for some time. Someone forgot a shop towel in the clutch cover.. Anyways its got a new oil pump and still ticks, not as loud, but ticks. Rockers and cam are scoured moderately, so I went out and bought a wiseco .20 over got jug bored to match and hotcams stg. 1 cam. I know I need rockers but I'm not sure what else to get after. The exhaust valve looks like chalk/very very light brown. I'm assuming this means its either leaking or its been running lean since forever?. I was always about the two strokes and would like a reliable 4s for all-season riding.

I also was wondering if anyone has done a Mikuni TM carb (flat-slide). It was a night and day improvement on my two stroke 250 /w oil injection (same plug for 2 months so far - starts 1st or 2nd kick)
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Left a shop towel inside??? lmao! A few guys I know of around here have a 28mm flatslide (including me). One or 2 have a 32mm (not sure if flat or not). I agree about the night n day improvement,,, mine runs like a 2-stroke since the new carb. I had all kinds of problems getting the jetting right with the new carb though (I still have a rich idle and just above idle). I think the 28 is slightly on the big side for the little 1/4 liter engine, but it will work. You should take your head n valves to a shop for them to check the guides, springs, and see if you need new valves. I doubt it would cost even $100. You might be right about the lean condition, not sure, but with a shop towel inside nothing would surprise me at this point. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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JustRandy: what you got for a main and pilot? Did you buy the carb off of like bikebandit and swap jets?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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Yeah, I got it from bikebandit. I drilled the jets with numbered bits (ie #57, #58, etc). It makes things easier for me since I start with a small jet and gradually get bigger until I hit the right size. I don't have to worry about keeping a lot of jets around either, even a piece of brass with the right threads will work, lol.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Oh, I forgot to talk about porting. I haven't ported mine yet, but a couple guys here have, who knows if it helped or not. I was talking to a guy at Vince Cycles http://vincescycle.tripod.com/newparts/lt230s.html (didn't catch his name, but I guess it was probably Vince). Anyway, he had done a lot of flow testing the 230 back in the day and told me that porting makes negligeable difference in flow. I don't know what kind of porting he did though, but I assume since he used to build race bikes he knew what he was doing. He also told me any cam with a lift over .280 is a waste and will just beat your valvetrain up for no reason. He recommended no higher than a stage 1 cam for this reason.

Come to think of it, do you have the specs on the hotcams stage 1 cam? I emailed the guys that sell them and I don't think they know what they are doing. They gave me some 300 something duration on the exhaust and that is just WAY too much for a stage 1 cam. Its too much at .050 lift for my software to accept. You simply can't simulate that duration. I think there is a misprint and was wondering if there was anything that came with your cam that has the specs.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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U should check the connecting rod since that is supplied thru oil passage in clutch cover. It would be good idea since u had past oiling problems. I know the carb i have uses same style jets as the stocker but not same size. Ill have to pull the bowl on of these days and see what jets im using.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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I would really really appreciate it if you could tell me the jetting specs you have on your TM. and the needle too.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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It's good now, the valve inspection cover was leaking oil. I still have the jug apart, its being matched to the piston at a machine shop. I just was hopeing someone had jetted this thing on a TM before. Maybe 24 is the way to go for these.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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24??? What do you mean? Do you have the hotcams stage 1 specs?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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I'll check it out when i get home.

BTW if you convert the drill bit u use to mm it = the Dynojet #. So eg a 1.81mm jet hole = DJ180. Charts will convert DJ180 -> Mikuni #210..(mikuni is based off flow rate).

How is 1/8 to 1/4 if you blip the throttle or launch with that needle/idle combo?
 
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